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Donetsk Protests Live Thread (About to be Stormed?)
Various/twitter ^ | 4-9-2014 | TCRLAF

Posted on 04/09/2014 12:45:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Twitter Hashtag #Donetsk has gotten busy in the last hour, especially after this Tweet from a UK blogger stating that the media was gathering, on rumor that the storming of the Donetsk Barricades was imminent.

UStream live feed from the Donetsk Barricades. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/artem77?utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=ustre.am%2F1b876&utm_medium=social&utm_content=20140409121554 Has been up for a while, but down the last 5 minutes.

Several recent tweets about "Blackwater mercenaries being seen around/in Donetsk.

Euromaidan PR tweets: "Rossiya 24 TV channel illegally broadcast by Donetsk administration captured by separatists."

Acting President Turchynov orders to take Donetsk RSA under state security

Numerous Twitter reports and Videos of Ukrainian troops, including heavy artillery and tanks, escorted by police, moving near Donetsk, at last report about 10k outside of the city. Local Civilians are impeding them by walking in the way, or having cars 'breakdown" on the roads.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; crimea; donetsk; putin; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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To: Agog
Posted elsewhere, but worthy of inclusion here too:

"There are reports on social media this morning about how “pro-Russian residents” of Kharkiv stormed the Opera, thinking that it was the town hall, and demanded that the mayor come out. It's very surprising that these so-called “residents” of Kharkiv would think that the Opera was the town hall."

http://osce.usmission.gov/apr_7_14_ukr2.html

Ukraine would do well to capture some of these "residents" and prove their identity, if possible.

61 posted on 04/09/2014 2:36:22 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: vladimir998

>> False. PRO-RUSSIANS who want Ukraine to lose its independence have been punished for their disloyalty to the country to which they hold citizenship. We would do no less here in a similar situation. <<

What a steaming, smelly, urine-soaked pile of crap! If we took to the streets to beat dissidents and anti-Americans, we would never have elected people like Obama and Carter.


62 posted on 04/09/2014 2:37:12 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Zhang Fei
"The only arms used during the Kiev protests were the ones used to gun down close to a hundred protesters." OH REALLY? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQn-29klRxs And WHO started the shooting at Maidan is still in question.
63 posted on 04/09/2014 2:37:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf
if these wretched scum will do this over COWS... just think what they'll when it comes to guns!!!
64 posted on 04/09/2014 2:49:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: tcrlaf

I doubt it. Most Ukrainians are going about their business. Part of the Russian disinformation is to portray the provocateurs as a massive demonstration and indicate a high probability of bloodshed. The Kharkiv admin building was taken by Ukrainian police recently with no bloodshed. What isn’t being shown is the pro-Ukraine demonstrations have been at least 10X the size of ones staged by the provocateurs.

FWIW, Ukraine has moved large numbers of the military toward the borders. That includes at least one train that was videoed hauling tanks south into Kharkiv oblast towards the Crimea. The Ukrainians are doing the right thing by ringing the airports. That stops a favorite strategy of the Russians.


65 posted on 04/09/2014 2:54:35 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It can be accepted as axiomatic truth that whatever side McCain and 0bastard take, is the very wrong side.


66 posted on 04/09/2014 3:02:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Samogon

People were paid to “protest” at the Maidan. Not pro-Russians. This was common knowledge for a long time.


67 posted on 04/09/2014 3:03:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Absolutely we should stay out of it. We’d be coming in years late and billions short. The time to to be resolute on the world stage is when you can back it up with superior firepower. Obama gave that option away. Now he just talks tough but carries a limp stick. McCain is the same way. All mouth.


68 posted on 04/09/2014 3:04:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: little jeremiah

No, not really. Knee-jerk reactions are just that.


69 posted on 04/09/2014 3:05:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Amazing that some people on FR accept without question the position of McCain, 0bastard and the EU spokesholes.


70 posted on 04/09/2014 3:05:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Zhang Fei; tcrlaf
In my view, if Russia is successful here, it WILL be mine, and a lot more, doing the dying, suffering, etc...

Just not right away, and likely not in my lifetime.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told the Diet that Japan needs to "consider acquiring the means to hit enemy bases in accordance with the changing international political situation."

71 posted on 04/09/2014 3:05:42 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: little jeremiah
People were paid to “protest” at the Maidan.

I remember RT reporting it . . . and showing protesters at a pro-Russia rally. Funny.

72 posted on 04/09/2014 3:06:14 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Double BINGO.


73 posted on 04/09/2014 3:06:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: tcrlaf

Easy to call for violence when it isn’t you and yours doing the dying, isn’t it?


Exactly so. “Let’s you and him fight”.


74 posted on 04/09/2014 3:08:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Paul R.

Oh, emphasis mine. And a link (tho’ the quote has been widely reported.)

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/02/21/2013022101139.html


75 posted on 04/09/2014 3:15:23 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have heard no tough talk from Obama. Not in my book, anyway. McCain maybe, but obviously he is in no position to deliver anything but his own vote.


76 posted on 04/09/2014 4:06:58 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: little jeremiah

Keep repeating that, you may get somebody to believe you.


77 posted on 04/09/2014 4:18:28 PM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: meatloaf
What isn’t being shown is the pro-Ukraine demonstrations have been at least 10X the size of ones staged by the provocateurs.

That would not surprise me, but, evidence / links please?

That stops a favorite strategy of the Russians.

Yes, the Ukrainians should know well...

The Kharkiv admin building was taken by Ukrainian police recently with no bloodshed.

A task rendered easy since many of the demonstrating pro-Russian "residents" were still over at the Opera, I suppose...

78 posted on 04/09/2014 4:23:33 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Anybody who attacks a Russian fascist is automatically neo-nazi. Right, vatnik? Not to mention one who dares to speak native language - that must be foreign agent - pravilno?


79 posted on 04/09/2014 4:23:36 PM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: dangus

“What a steaming, smelly, urine-soaked pile of crap! If we took to the streets to beat dissidents and anti-Americans, we would never have elected people like Obama and Carter.”

Our failure to do what is right does not mean the Ukrainians are wrong to do it.


80 posted on 04/09/2014 4:26:19 PM PDT by vladimir998
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