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Some California state employees now eligible to cash out leave
Sacramento Bee ^ | April 7, 2014 | By Jon Ortiz

Posted on 04/08/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Tens of thousands of state workers stand to get extra money in the next couple months by cashing out some of their unused leave time – assuming the state can find money to cover it.

California owes billions of dollars to state employees for unused paid time off, a largely unseen burden that isn’t regularly tracked or reported statewide. Last year the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office said the state’s leave liability totaled $3.9 billion as of June 2012 – and it’s growing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: publicworkers; stateworkers; unions

1 posted on 04/08/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’d almost be willing to bet that those CALPERS employees do not have an accrual sick leave policy. IOW, they use the unaccounted sick policy as vacation.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 8:07:34 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Many private companies dropped this option years ago.

But when you’re using taxpayer’s money, party on!


3 posted on 04/08/2014 8:08:21 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cali has some impressive retirement benefits.

I remember reading how many govt retirees make over 100 grand and 200 grand per year.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 8:08:51 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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5 posted on 04/08/2014 8:23:48 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the state used generally accepted accounting principles, then this liability would be reported and openly seen on financial reports.

That’s half the battle right there, in my opinion, as they state that this liability is not tracked or reported, and apparently is “off the books”. But it’s still an outstanding legal debt of the government, and should be on the books.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 8:24:15 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Anyone know whats going on July 1, 2014? Drove by the longshoreman building in long beach and they have a big sign and date asking if you are ready?

They going on strike again?


7 posted on 04/08/2014 8:29:44 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: nascarnation

Cali has some impressive retirement benefits.

I remember reading how many govt retirees make over 100 grand and 200 grand per year.
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California simply needs a “use it or lose it” law/regulation (at the end of the year the employee can only “carry over” to the new year a maximum amount of leave—any balance above that maximum each year is lost) and they need to ENFORCE IT.

Oh...on second thought forget about it; I just remembered that the California taxpayers work for and serve the government employees and not vice versa.


8 posted on 04/08/2014 9:13:38 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Gaffer

I’d almost be willing to bet that those CALPERS employees do not have an accrual sick leave policy. IOW, they use the unaccounted sick policy as vacation.

**That’s exactly what they do, have a neighbor who confirmed that’s common practice.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 9:46:39 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: House Atreides
My company policy accrues PTO hours as a percentage of hours worked. Employees with under 10 years service are permitted a backlog of 380 hours. Over 10 years is permitted a backlog of 480 hours. Recently, the rules were changed such that once you hit the limit, nothing further is accrued against your labor i.e. they begin stealing your vacation. The consequence of that policy change is that employees in danger of hitting the limit start taking days off and screwing with your staffing. The rule for "cash out" is that you can only cash out the accrual from the current calendar year. Any other hours must be taken as paid vacation. Why not? It's time off with full benefits. A cash payout gets whacked at the highest marginal rates.
10 posted on 04/08/2014 9:48:31 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Many state governments and private companies have a “use-it-or-lose-it” policy on vacation days. A friend of mine in HR at the local state university told me that each year about one-third of the staff have unspent vacation days at the end of each year that they lose.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 11:13:32 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every company has a use it it or lose it policy. The state workers use this as a way to boost their retirement pay that WE pay for.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 11:50:10 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What’s more absurd is that the value of unused leave is factored in to the already ridiculous pension calculation. They call it pension spiking.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: minnesota_bound

My cousins husband works for a Calif state university (computer professor) and when I brought up this problem about sick days. He was kinda incensed saying he deserved the money. He wasn’t sick mind you but viewed those days as something he deserved.

That is the attitude that will and has bankrupted cites.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 11:57:19 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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