Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Real Reason the Stock Market Is Rigged
Money Morning ^ | 7 April 2014 | Shah Gilani

Posted on 04/07/2014 10:47:28 AM PDT by Errant

Everyone's talking about Michael Lewis' latest book Flash Boys and HFT (high-frequency trading) and whether the markets are rigged.

What they're not talking about is how the markets have been set up for institutionalized rigging.

I'm not kidding.

The markets are rigged. You're going to have to get over it and deal with it.

The rigging is in the system and that's just the way it is...

As to HFT, I'll get to that...

But you can't pass judgment on HFT until you understand how cascading technology and unintended consequences landed us in the deep end of the dark pool we now call the market....

And who really set the perfect table for the problem...

(Excerpt) Read more at moneymorning.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: crash; dow; hft; hftrading; market; michaellewis; stockmarket; stocks

1 posted on 04/07/2014 10:47:28 AM PDT by Errant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Errant; blam

Ping-a-Ling!


2 posted on 04/07/2014 10:48:24 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Errant

The Market it’s self is now an abstract ponzii scheme


3 posted on 04/07/2014 10:53:05 AM PDT by GraceG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gotta sign up to read it.


4 posted on 04/07/2014 10:53:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: GraceG
The chickens coming home to roost?

S&P Tumbles From Record-High To Red Year-To-Date In 2 Days

I've learned however that the ability of the TPTB to keep the game going is often underestimated.

5 posted on 04/07/2014 10:57:26 AM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Errant

If it wasn’t rigged, you wouldn’t be allowed to participate.


6 posted on 04/07/2014 11:28:29 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Errant

One could buy and hold for long periods of time, over which micro-second strategies are quite irrelevant.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 11:36:11 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Miltie

Buy-and-hold works when you’re in a long-term bull market.

We’re not in a long-term bull market. That ended at the end of 2002.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 11:39:51 AM PDT by NVDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Miltie
One could buy and hold for long periods of time...

Under our current circumstances, IMO, that strategy will better be applied to silver coins and maybe a little silver and gold bullion. But you probably already have those bases covered.

I think we're entering at least another recession, if not a serious depression. I'd wait for a crash before buying large caps or even medium caps now, even considering a declining dollar. There might be a few emerging tech stocks to consider in the 3d printing, security, war fighting, food production, and crytocurrency categories tho.

9 posted on 04/07/2014 12:12:39 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

BFL


10 posted on 04/07/2014 12:14:30 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Errant

The big boys have always had advantages over little guys. Not just in trading but in life in general. Deal with it. One can’t beat traders by trading in and out. However one should not use this as an excuse to not be in the market at some level compatible with one’s age and risk tolerance. With bonds at ridiculously low rates one has to have some amount in stocks to offset inflation. I have some in stocks, little bit in bonds and a lot of cash. But that’s me.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 1:12:22 PM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Errant

There was public news a long time ago saying that the government or Fed was buying stocks but would not exercise control over companies that received majority investments. So money has been shifted between stocks and bonds, then back in order to continue propping the dollar unnaturally high internationally, prevent the bond collapse, prevent repudiation of debt, etc. It appears that the plan is to slowly shrink the economy to fit only the most worthy without any major market fluctuations and without expanding domestic manufacturing.


12 posted on 04/07/2014 3:35:48 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: familyop

Reminds me of a talk Mark Faber gave a few weeks ago about unlimited printing creating unequal bubbles. Sooner or later bubbles pop and the rush will be on to find the actual values, creating much turmoil in the process. Such is always the eventual outcome of artificial manipulation of markets. We however are in a much worse predicament in that we’ve now got a runaway government and its spending on our hands with millions dependent upon ever increasing debt.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 4:14:38 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: plain talk
One can’t beat traders by trading in and out. However one should not use this as an excuse to not be in the market at some level compatible with one’s age and risk tolerance.

Sure, but now is not the time to enter the market after years of an effort to artificially inflate it, IMO. I'll just sit this one out, if you don't mind.

14 posted on 04/07/2014 4:17:29 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Errant

THE Berlin Stock Exchange still exists—as a building,
as an institution with large offices, with brokers and
bankers, with a huge organization for daily announcement
of stock and bond quotations. But it is only a
pale imitation of its former self and of what a stock
exchange is supposed to be. For the Stock Exchange
cannot function if and when the State regulates the flow
of capital and destroys the confidence of investors in
the sanctity of their property rights.
The glorious days when millions of marks daily
poured into the Stock Exchange, when the bonds and
securities of foreign countries were handled, when new
concerns and trusts were promoted and exciting speculative
maneuvers were staged—those glorious times have
long since departed, and even the doorkeeper who
vividly remembers the excitement of the “good old days”
does not believe that they will ever return. Yet the
decrepit machine still runs.

From the Vampire Ecconomy, 1939


15 posted on 04/07/2014 4:20:47 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple; plain talk; All
Just ran across this piece at ZH:

The Father Of High Speed Trading Speaks: "The Market We Created Is A Casino; A Complete Mess; A Rigged Game"

Even so, I think it's the artificial support of the market that has created a far worse problem.

16 posted on 04/07/2014 4:27:02 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Errant

Very well said.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 4:39:56 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Errant

well the stock market is not even close to a casino as far as probabilities of losing your money. Dollar cost average into a conservative mix of stocks and bonds over 40 years and you will do fine. Not so much with a casino.


18 posted on 04/07/2014 5:29:05 PM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Errant

BFL


19 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:20 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson