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NRA lobbyist breaks hunting law, then lobbies to change it
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 2 apr 2014 | DAVE MCKINNEY

Posted on 04/02/2014 4:59:56 AM PDT by rellimpank

L SPRINGFIELD — After a state conservation officer ticketed the National Rifle Association’s Illinois lobbyist last December for breaking a hunting law, the gun-rights advocate dutifully paid his $120 fine.

But Todd Vandermyde, one of Springfield’s most powerful and effective lobbyists, didn’t stop there.

A month later, he worked with one legislator to rewrite the law he broke.

And not long after that, he enlisted help from House Minority Leader Jim Durkin, R-Western Springs, to carry legislation that, at least initially, would have greatly restrained the authority of Department of Natural Resources police officers to venture onto private property.

“I had a run-in with a couple of cops and because of it, it educated me about the law, and I thought there were some inequities of the law that needed fixed,” Vandermyde told the Chicago Sun-Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; confrontationwatch; davemckinney; donutwatch; feos; illinois; jimdurkin; nra; rkba; toddvandermyde; westernsprings
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To: Iron Munro
lobbyist breaks hunting law, then lobbies to change it

Dummy me, that's how I thought screwy laws were changed in the first place.

21 posted on 04/02/2014 5:42:37 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Iron Munro
Gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar then wants to change the rules to make it okay?

This is different. He paid the fine, then went to work changing the law. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? He's not trying to get out of the fine, or beat the rap, he's trying to correct something that needs correcting.

22 posted on 04/02/2014 5:48:48 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

“Leftist politicians get upset when someone works within the system to change a law. The nerve of anyone who would do that.”

I doubt that he will have any luck changing it. Here in Texas a warrant is required for law enforcement officers to come on private land. That is, “except” for Game Wardens. Being that game, at least here in Texas, is owned by the state or considered to be state property, Texas Legislature wrote an exception a long time ago to allow Game Wardens access to private property without a warrant. And, I believe it includes searching autos, coolers, home freezers, etc. anyway, so it goes....


23 posted on 04/02/2014 5:54:04 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: G Larry
“for having a loaded crossbow with him while he was riding on an all-terrain vehicle”

There are weeks in December when I do that on a daily basis... with a rifle and a loaded sidearm.
24 posted on 04/02/2014 6:04:47 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: riverrunner

It makes sense to case it just for safety reasons...
But if I am on my own private property, I can hang 4 of them around my neck while holding 2 in the air doing donuts in the dirt naked on a 4-wheeler if I want to.
Its nobody’s business what I do on my own land.
Now... if I venture onto public roads, yeah, I can see where the law can tell me what to do.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 6:10:44 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Flick Lives
and there is the real issue; a bottom feeder bureaucrat got his panties in a knot because he was "disrespected".

A third of the problem anyway. First there isn't any particular reason that game wardens should be exempt from trespasss laws. Second, the law he broke is a stupid law, and third and probably at least as important as the other two is your point, he didn't slavishly fawn over the JBTs who were going go give him a ticket anyway.

26 posted on 04/02/2014 6:12:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: envisio
Its nobody’s business what I do on my own land.

Not according to the government and it's innumerable armed bureaucrats, all of whom view you as legitimate prey to be exploited, taxed, regulated, etc. and if you fail to obey killed on the spot because it's always a "good shoot" when an armed bureaucrat kills a peasant.

27 posted on 04/02/2014 6:17:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Iron Munro

Gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar then wants to change the rules to make it okay?


Maybe you should read the article, even the posted excerpt above.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 6:18:52 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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To: rellimpank

It is without a doubt a stupid law. So what is the issue with trying to get rid of it?


29 posted on 04/02/2014 6:25:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

I think you might have missed the sarcasm!!!


30 posted on 04/02/2014 6:32:41 AM PDT by ontap
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To: envisio

Now you’ve done it!

You will now require a Drone hunting license...because now they’ll be looking for you!


31 posted on 04/02/2014 6:48:33 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: rellimpank
Game wardens can go just about anywhere without a warrant.

We had one almost get shot at the gun range (by accident) because he was hunting on the range property without permission. He was down range on a live fire range, past the posted signs.

He threatened to shut us down, till the sheriff showed up and threatened to arrest him.

32 posted on 04/02/2014 7:05:36 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Iron Munro

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


33 posted on 04/02/2014 7:06:08 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: cuban leaf

Another Illinois business escaping from Illinois

Indiana site may lure suburban Chicago manufacturer
EAST CHICAGO, Ind. — Officials in northwestern Indiana say a nearly $70 million project is planned at an abandoned factory site where a manufacturer might move operations from suburban Chicago.

By The Associated Press
Posted Apr. 2, 2014 @ 6:57 am

EAST CHICAGO, Ind. — Officials in northwestern Indiana say a nearly $70 million project is planned at an abandoned factory site where a manufacturer might move operations from suburban Chicago.

East Chicago officials say several new industrial buildings are planned for the former Union Tank Car Co. property.

City attorney Joseph Allegretti tells The Times of Munster that Harvey, Ill.-based steel processor LB Steel is looking to move to the site and employ about 400 workers.

Mayor Anthony Copeland is proposing 75 percent of new property taxes from the redevelopment go toward paying project debt as long as the company employs at least 200 East Chicago residents.

Union Tank Car once employed more than 600 workers but the factory closed in 2008.

Other factory and warehouse space is also planned at the site.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 7:08:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rellimpank

ILLINOIS

Another concealed carry firearms instructor decertified after complaints
7:55AM Wednesday
April 2, 2014

http://www.wlsam.com/common/page.php?feed=11&pt=Another+concealed+carry+firearms+instructor+decertified+after+complaints&id=91584&is_corp=0


35 posted on 04/02/2014 7:11:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rellimpank

If you haven’t broken the law, you have no standing to challenge it. (Kinda sucks, though, that one has to submit to the criminal justice system to gain eligibility to challenge a bad law.)

Rosa Parks is in the same boat, she broke a law and then lobbied to change it.


36 posted on 04/02/2014 7:25:21 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: kiryandil

In Illinois, the king’s men can come and go when and where they please. Conservation officers can forcibly enter and search your home without a warrant if they have “reasonable “ suspicion that you’ve got illegally taken game inside. They can open your freezer and empty its contents on your floor in their hunt for poached squirrels. They can come onto your privately owned timber any time they please and harass you and your friends for sitting around a campfire at eight in the morning. (I know, because it’s happened to me.) Most of these ‘public servants” are on the wrong side of history, and will be on the wrong side of the line when things go really south. Bear in mind, Illinois’ FOID card requirement (Firearms Owners Identification) gives it the power to (A) deny you your Second Amendment rights and (B) establishes a handy list of gun owners’ addresses. In many, many ways, Illinois IS the blue model for the rest of the nation.


37 posted on 04/02/2014 7:34:24 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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To: from occupied ga; envisio; cuban leaf
Not according to the government and it's innumerable armed bureaucrats, all of whom view you as legitimate prey to be exploited, taxed, regulated, etc. and if you fail to obey killed on the spot because it's always a "good shoot" when an armed bureaucrat kills a peasant.

I seem to recall a certain quote about this situation:

"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance."

Where did all these swarms of Farce Enlawment officers come from? And where did the overpaid scalawags get the idea that us "civilian" peasants are their personal lickspittles?

38 posted on 04/02/2014 7:47:40 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Basil Duke

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”


39 posted on 04/02/2014 7:51:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Basil Duke
In Illinois, the king’s men can come and go when and where they please...

S.S.S.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

40 posted on 04/02/2014 7:57:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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