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Lawsuit: Man Arrested, Searched For Marijuana Solely For Having Colorado License Plate
CBS Seattle ^
| March 28, 2014
| Benjamin Fearnow
Posted on 03/30/2014 2:38:34 PM PDT by CedarDave
Boise, Idaho (CBS SEATTLE) An Idaho state trooper arrested and fully searched a 70-year-old Washington mans vehicle solely because he had a Colorado license plate a state where marijuana is legal a federal license plate profiling lawsuit alleges.
Darien Roseen was driving along I-84 between his second home in Colorado and Washington state on Jan. 25 when Idaho State Trooper Justin Klitch immediately pulled out from the Interstate median and began rapidly accelerating to catch up to Roseen, according to the complaint in a Courthouse News Service report. Exiting at a designated rest area, Roseen says he became uncomfortable that Klitch had followed him though he had not done anything wrong.
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At no point did Trooper Klitchs line of questioning relate to Mr. Roseens alleged improper driving pattern, the complaint states. Instead, Trooper Klitch immediately accused Mr. Roseen of transporting something illegal.
Roseens attorney, Mark Coonts, told Courthouse News that his clients constitutional rights were given no regard.
We believe that Americans should be able to travel interstate highways without being harassed and unlawfully detained because of license-plate profiling, said Coonts. Our client, Mr. Roseen, is a 70-year-old retiree who was returning from his daughters baby shower. He was stopped in Idaho and deprived of his constitutional rights because he was driving a car with a license plate from a state that ISP associated with marijuana.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Colorado; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; drugs; licenseplate; marijuana; police; profiling
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
The cop deliberately makes his victim nervous, then calls that nervousness probable cause. It isn’t.
101
posted on
03/30/2014 4:15:03 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
To: BykrBayb
the colorado tag and the pot law are probable cause
102
posted on
03/30/2014 4:15:47 PM PDT
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Your entire post can be summed up thus, intimidation.
Go lick a boot.
103
posted on
03/30/2014 4:17:04 PM PDT
by
Ghost of SVR4
(So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Basically, a cop sits on the tail of a car with Colorado plates and then the driver starts acting suspiciously. That is a profiling all good cops do. Get you nervous and see how you react. If the driver had just kept going down the road at the same speed in the right lane, there isnt a darn thing the cop could have done to him, legally. Instead, he acted in a suspicious manner, pulling off the highway.
Now, is that alone enough to warrant reasonable suspicion on the part of the cop? No, probably not. Cops make a lot of honest people nervous when sitting on their tail. A lot of people would probably pull over at some point just to see if the cop is really following them or just driving behind them.
Bingo, we have a winner. The cop was actly coply. This is what society has asked for with the War on Drugs and existing DUI laws.
But seriously, never allow a search. That's just stupid. Most other FReepers seem to know - never ask if you're under arrest, always ask if you're free to go. Only do that as a last resort when events have unfolded, and you have no idea why you're still being held.
Don't be obsequious and call the officer "sir" or "ma'am". Use their title - deputy, sheriff, officer, etc. When in doubt, default to officer and let them correct you if their ego requires it.
If they ask you to give them information, ask if it's okay to unbuckle your seatbelt. Tell them "my drivers license is located here". Wait for them to tell you to go ahead. Tell them, "the registration and insurance is located here". Again, wait for them to acknowledge before reaching for items. Where are your hands when you're communicating with them? Gee.
When pulling over, pull to the shoulder and slow to a crawl, then pull over a little more. You don't want them getting swiped by a car. More importantly, you want them to know you don't want them getting swiped by a car.
104
posted on
03/30/2014 4:19:17 PM PDT
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: vetvetdoug
“There are repercussions for Colorados decisions”.
One of the repercussions will be to attract lots of Democrats to Colorado. As if there weren’t too many already....
105
posted on
03/30/2014 4:19:46 PM PDT
by
STYRO
(War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
To: Paladin2
I think every leftist with a decal-plastered Subaru would be wary of driving through Idaho.
On a side note, today as we were out driving, the wife and I got behind a Subaru with leftist decals plastered all over the rear. I had been making jokes about leftist Subaru drivers to the wife only to be tut-tutted for profiling Subarus. "Not every Subaru driver is a leftist wacko" said my wife. Today I was laughing hysterically as she stared daggers at me.
To: bert
Louisana has the highest murder rate, so cops should pull over everyone from Louisana and check their trunks for dead bodies.
107
posted on
03/30/2014 4:23:18 PM PDT
by
BykrBayb
(Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
To: CedarDave
Make my day, officer! Give me a fat bank account for my senior years.
108
posted on
03/30/2014 4:25:19 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
To: null and void
More of an award then. I see.
I've been contemplating acquiring an unpleasant canine from the pound. One that I won't become attached to and will garner the attention of the JBTs in any encounter, rather than me
A sacrifice, as it were, to satiate their blood lust.
109
posted on
03/30/2014 4:25:33 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
(Valley Forge Redux)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; andyk; GeronL
No mention of a dash cam. Surely such a competent officer has this all on video. No mention of a field sobriety test.
They're not. Sounds like the guy entered a freeway without his turn signal on (according to the cop, but come on you see it every day). Sorry folks, you want law enforcement out there "saving lives", this is how they do it. This is how they enforce DUI laws. You all knew that, right? They use every day violations to pull people over and ask them about other things.
To: BykrBayb
no, no..... the Mississippi or Texas cops would have that probable cause
111
posted on
03/30/2014 4:27:08 PM PDT
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Both sides of the law operate the same way... Do you understand what you just said there?
Dont sound naive.
If wanting to be left alone when I'm doing nothing wrong is naive, yep, I'm naive.
It is part of a GOOD cops job to profile people and then study how they react.
That sentence doesn't make sense. Replace "profile" with "pressure", and it would make sense. But I still wouldn't agree with it.
112
posted on
03/30/2014 4:27:17 PM PDT
by
Leaning Right
(Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
To: driftless2
I’ve driven both a Subaru and a Volvo.
Here, that’s called protective coloration...
113
posted on
03/30/2014 4:27:18 PM PDT
by
null and void
( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
To: CedarDave
Good thing he had no dog in the car.
114
posted on
03/30/2014 4:27:56 PM PDT
by
chiefqc
To: Eagles6
That’s soooooo sick, and soooooo wise.
115
posted on
03/30/2014 4:27:59 PM PDT
by
null and void
( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
To: null and void
116
posted on
03/30/2014 4:28:21 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: Paladin2
You know why the Miss Black America has only 49 contestants then, I take it?
117
posted on
03/30/2014 4:30:41 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
we now know the cop was right to profile him, as he did have Marijuana in the car. Where the fu@#k did you read that?
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Never mind. You already apologized.
To: Vendome
120
posted on
03/30/2014 4:36:01 PM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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