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1 posted on 03/20/2014 8:33:23 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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Ender’s Game ??


2 posted on 03/20/2014 8:35:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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Longitudinal study by Lewis Terman begun in the thirties showed this very outcome."Terman's gifted children" grew up to be effective and successful adults, in all domains of life. It is shameful that this derivative study, a mere replication of previous pioneers, does not give due credit to the originals.
3 posted on 03/20/2014 8:38:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"the study has provided important new evidence that it really is possible to identify the kids who are likely to become exceptional achievers in the future"

Then they need to left free to excel.

4 posted on 03/20/2014 8:46:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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One of the most important parts of the article: “...Vanderbilt researchers have previously found that those who weren’t challenged in school were less likely to live up to the potential indicated by their test scores. Other research has shown that under-stimulated gifted students quickly become bored and frustrated—especially if they come from low-income families that are not equipped to provide them with enrichment outside of school.”

There’s very little if any convincing evidence that throwing more education at underachieving students helps in any real fashion, but there’s ample evidence that not challenging gifted youth robs the future of valuable, productive, capable and trend-setting individuals.

Yet our society has become so obsessed with the siren-song of “equal outcomes” that we seek to achieve it by brushing the capable under the rug and spending like mad on the incapable.

Instead I would like to point out that all of society, rich and poor, gifted and disabled, benefits when the best and brightest are encouraged to reach for the sky and given every possible assistance along the way. The wealth and groundbreaking advances that can be generated by one brilliant mind can result in more benefit to society than any amount of midnight basketball and “English as a second language” classes.

Today’s gifted children, ignored by our schools and treated with disdain and disgust by liberal elites, could be our future Newtons and Galileos. We’re throwing away the future because we refuse to encourage the more-able to do everything they can with their God-Given Gifts.


5 posted on 03/20/2014 8:53:38 PM PDT by jameslalor
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Today, many are CEOs, professors at top research universities, transplant surgeons, and successful novelists.

That outcome sounds like exactly what you’d imagine should happen: Top young people grow into high-achieving adults.

This is sleight of hand. Do you see it? There's a missing word word in the second part.

6 posted on 03/20/2014 8:55:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Liberty Wins

Ping


7 posted on 03/20/2014 8:56:05 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Education Marxists are trying to rediscover the wheel. They’re straining to find the proper verbiage to excuse their present dumb-down ethos that they have enforced in the schools, whle feebly searching for a course correction.


12 posted on 03/20/2014 9:10:30 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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I was in a nominal gifted program (what little our district offered and only briefly) and have stayed in the area. Only a couple of the “gifted” kids have been more than moderately successful. Some dropped out, some never heard from again. Some are lonely and bitter from life kicking them in the teeth too much. We do a rotten job of providing opportunities for gifted kids/adults. I have gifted daughters, and I see the same mistakes now. The state assures free tuition for the poor, for illegals, but not the academically talented. This is a crime to humanity.


14 posted on 03/20/2014 9:16:14 PM PDT by conservative cat
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education bump for later........


16 posted on 03/20/2014 9:22:55 PM PDT by indthkr
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Gifted kids have been neglected, ignored and discriminated against by our educational system ever since the hey-day of John Dewey, who realized he could only achieve his dream of a socialist America with a dumbed-down populace who couldn’t read.


28 posted on 03/20/2014 9:50:40 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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‘gifted’ children may or may not have higher IQs. What they definitely have is a determination (for whatever reason) to work hard and achieve what their class mates cannot or will not. This is true for adults who are hard working driven people. the truth is they will succeed inspire of their surroundings not because of them.

Unfortunately, the lefties and commies want you to think that the government can make all of this equal


29 posted on 03/20/2014 9:53:45 PM PDT by Nifster
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PING


52 posted on 03/20/2014 11:45:39 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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Ping.


53 posted on 03/21/2014 1:08:20 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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Both a homeschool and another reason to homeschool ping.


54 posted on 03/21/2014 1:30:04 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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Our son took the SAT at age 12 and scored high enough to be admitted to even some Ivy League schools. He was an honor student in college and graduated magna cum laude from law school and is now a successful attorney. While he was in primary school the talented and gifted programs were phased out.

My wife, a former school nurse, has said the real losers are the average kids. The talented and gifted students will succeed on their own, but with massive amounts of school resources being spent on the learning disabled it is the average kids who are being shortchanged.

As a school nurse, my wife had to provide nursing care to special needs students at almost a hospital level. She spent part of each day traveling by cab to the student's home helped load the student into the cab and monitored them in transit by cab to the school. This was repeated after school completed for the day. She monitored several students who were functioning at little more than a vegetative state. Yet these students were "mainstreamed" into regular classrooms with their "work" being done by teacher's aides. She often said that the school district was simply providing free babysitting services to these students until they were 21.

59 posted on 03/21/2014 2:30:33 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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Common Core will put a stop to this nonsense.

It's not fair that some people are smarter and achieve more than others.

66 posted on 03/21/2014 6:17:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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From the tone of the article it is all about benefiting the socialist “hive”.

Gee! What about the kid?


76 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:08 AM PDT by wintertime
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To me, this article reads like yet another attempted justification for more federal funds - this time for the “poor, neglected gifted” children. (lol)

There are honors classes, advanced placement classes, college courses open to high school students, etc. If a student is so ahead of the class that even those special classes do not adequately meet his or her educational needs, the student should just go to college. That seems like a solution to the problem.

For the record, one of my sons scored in the top 1% on the SAT. No federal funds were necessary to meet his needs. He didn’t even go to school, with the exception of a few math courses at a local college, and is mostly self-taught. His whole curriculum consisted largely of used books, discounted books, free books, borrowed books, and me driving him to activities. Sure, I would’ve liked to have been able to afford more for him, but he had to be content with what we as a family could manage. Should the rest of you have been made to foot the bill?


78 posted on 03/21/2014 2:08:57 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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