[Impy]

Billyboy and I have been arguing against the “repeal the 17th” garbage forever.

I’ll keep it simple. Politicians electing politicians= retarded. Ultra mega turbo retarded. It will very obviously give you the opposite of what you want, which is a fantasy not compatible with the real world. It wasn’t even like that in the past, the disgusting corruption and inefficacy of the process is why the amendment was passed and ratified.

[BillyBoy]

>> Politicians electing politicians= retarded. It will very obviously give you the opposite of what you want <<

But here in mother Russia, it gives ME exactly what I want. In America, you purge politicians. In Russia, politicians purge YOU! And if the politicians appointed by my cronies DON'T give me what I want, its off to the Gulag for them!

;-)

[Smokin' Joe]

The intent wasn't that the Senate do the will of the people per se, they were there to safeguard States' Rights. The House of Representatives was supposed to safeguard the People and invoke their will, which is why all revenue measures are requried to originate in the House.

As a spinoff, people would continue to be involved in their State level politics, when currently I doubt one person in 10 could tell you who their State (not Federal) Senator or Representative is.

But what was supposed to be a bottom up government has become very much top down, the power in this country was first and foremost supposed to be in the hands of the People. Idiots electing politicians isn't working out so well, either.