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400 PPM: Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere Reaches Prehistoric Levels
Scientific American ^
| May 9, 2013
| David Biello
Posted on 03/19/2014 6:15:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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This year-old article isn't exactly news (although in geologic time it happened 'bout 1 second ago) -- but I just wanted to gauge FReeper's reactions to my own proposal, that I'd like to bump up average global surface temps by 2
o and try to get the CO
2 to about 1500 ppm, so we can open up all that prime agricultural land in northern Canada and Eurasia, feed about 7 billion more people, and have valuable tropical beachfront property in Newfoundland and Labrador.
What say ye?
To: Mrs. Don-o
Wonder how much a prehistoric SUV would sell for if I could dig one up.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:17:43 AM PDT
by
Crazieman
(Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Would that be Ice Age prehistoric levels?
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:18:08 AM PDT
by
Amagi
(Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
To: Amagi
Sure, get a sample from the top of a volcano.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:20:03 AM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I vote yes, this should give the “population control” crowd the vapors.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:20:16 AM PDT
by
Rumplemeyer
(The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Lot of heavy breathing going on back in the day? (800,000 years ago) Or, was it the CO2 being emitted from those scary SUV’s?
To: Mrs. Don-o
Well I say that they should have tossed the reading for the simple reason that the volcano is active.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:22:02 AM PDT
by
Cold Heat
(Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Q. What is the largest natural source of carbon dioxide?
A. Volcanoes
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Q. What is Mauna Loa?
A. A Volcano...
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:22:51 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
(Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:25:29 AM PDT
by
Sgt_Schultze
(A half-truth is a complete lie)
To: Mrs. Don-o
So, having a sensor at the top of an active volcano is a good idea..............................
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:26:52 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Better that than another glacier build up here in Wisconsin! :)
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:27:25 AM PDT
by
MRadtke
(Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
To: Mrs. Don-o
A nice diversion and worthy of consideration. However, my first proposal is the urge the ‘Keeling’ family to take their highly accurate and scientific CO2 readings somewhere other than on the precipice of an active volcano.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:28:01 AM PDT
by
Gaffer
(Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
To: Mrs. Don-o
This article mixes the (fraud) concepts of AGC and AGW. This seems to be a trend. Global “change” is a more flexible con, but doesn’t sell to the public like global “warming”.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:28:51 AM PDT
by
jdsteel
(Give me freedom, not more government.)
To: Red Badger
This is just the NOAA way of doing things....place your dispersed geographical temperature sensors near the exhausts of building heating systems etc.....
To believe these amateurs’ loggings requires suspension of all disbelief in reality.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:30:12 AM PDT
by
Gaffer
(Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:30:21 AM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
My rough interpretation of the data shown in the figures-
1. Daily CO2 conc from the 2nd to the 7th is fairly constant, on the 8th where it hits 400, the data is clearly an an artifact perhaps caused by an instrument malfunction or burp from the volcano. Check your instruments.
2. The long term data is clearly cyclical and the data from 1958 is a short term sample whereas the core data is averaged over hundreds or even thousands of years. You cannot compare the two.
3. The observatory data shows a constant rate of increase over 50 years. Since the amount of CO2 generated over those 50 years has not been increasing dramatically during that time, the rate of increase should be greater now than in the past. It is not.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:33:31 AM PDT
by
Brooklyn Attitude
(Things are only going to get worse.)
To: Moonman62
The point of that graph being that temperature change leads the CO2 change.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:34:16 AM PDT
by
Mycroft Holmes
(<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Imagine a stadium with 100,000 seats. Now imagine 40 seats are left empty while the rest have someone in them to give you an idea of how little 400 ppm is.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:35:44 AM PDT
by
MNDude
To: Brooklyn Attitude
Correction to my previous post. The 2nd comment should read “HAS been increasing dramatically”.
Apologies
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:36:27 AM PDT
by
Brooklyn Attitude
(Things are only going to get worse.)
To: Amagi
Mid-Pliocene. The global average temperature (about 3 million years ago) was 23 °C higher than today, global sea level 25 m higher and the Northern hemisphere ice sheet was come-and-go --- this was before the glaciation that occurred in the late Pliocene over Greenland.
Nobody ever asks the climate alarmists, "OK, so what is the IDEAL CO2 level and earth surface temperature?" As a gardener, my preferences are clear: more and more.
I'm glad my compost pile generates robust amounts of heat and CO2. If everybody had a compost pile, maybe I'd reach my target climate: the pretty, pleasant, practical Pliocene.
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posted on
03/19/2014 6:36:28 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Point of view.)
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