Posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by blam
What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide
Alex Davies
March 17, 2014
Not surprisingly, the disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 with 239 people on board more than a week ago has led some people to come up with very interesting theories about what might have happened.
On his Tumblr, self-identified hobby pilot and aviation enthusiast Keith Ledgerwood put forward the most elaborate and interesting suggestion we've heard yet.
He argues the 777 could have flown over India and Pakistan, avoiding military radar detection by turning off its communications systems and following a Singapore Airlines 777 so closely the two aircraft "would have shown up as one single blip on the radar."
In the post, Ledgerwood established that the Singapore Airlines flight was in the area.
The collision avoidance systems installed on all modern airliners operate using the transponder, which someone on the Malaysia flight could have turned off. So the Singapore crew wouldn't have detected a plane on their tail, Ledgerwood speculates.
"Once MH370 had cleared the volatile airspaces and was safe from being detected by military radar sites in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan," Ledgerwood writes, "it would have been free to break off from the shadow of SIA68 and could have then flown a path to it’s final landing site."
We asked Michael G. Fortune, a retired pilot who now works as an aviation consultant and expert witness, if that would be possible. After a lengthy pause, he gave us a skeptical "maybe." It would depend on what kind of radar equipment the Singapore 777 had on board, he said, and would require some serious aviation skill to find and stay behind the plane.
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Impossible!
Not arguing with your point, as one who once flew a Bonanza through the wake of a Lockheed Electra, but is my memory fooling me when I think I recall that the person driving the Airbus exceeded the structural design of the rudder when trying to correct?
A few years ago, in Africa, a 727 (iirc) went "missing" when it was going to be repossessed. It was used as a fuel transport to deliver a variety of liquid fuels to remote villages.
Can't remember if they found it, probably had a plethora of tail numbers while in plain sight, but that could be one way to eventually fuel the 777 (for its suicide attack on Israel...) if they are too impatient to go the pilgrimage or beasts of burden route.
Of coarse, if you know the transponder was ahead of you you would only need two antennas to establish to vector to the signal.
Or, even simpler still, a directional antenna (yogi) pointed out the windshield of the plane, rotate the antenna with some means to measure signal strength of the transponder signal. Sounds very crude, but it could work. How do you think they find those radio collars/tags they attach to wolves, bears, sharks, etc.
That airbus crash was determined to be due to overly aggressive rudder response to the WT, not due to the WT itself. There was 5 minutes separation, which I believe is typical today.
Any aircraft needs to be mindful of WT, whether it considers it a flea or a monster. For example, while waiting to take off, watch the life off point of the current take off... and be sure to lift off prior to that one. Especially if you are small and it is big.
I’d still maintain that any WT more than a few thousand feet away in altitude is nothing to worry about... a mere bump.
Kudos to the networks tho, the bogus video graphics that accompany each report certainly hold one's attention........
You couldn’t do any mid-air refueling on that Malaysian airliner. They’re not equipped for that.
I would be interested in knowing if the pilot’s flight simulator had the software capability of following another flight.
Let’s not forget that the pilot had his personal laptop in the cabin with him. Did he connect to the internet during the flight? Did he have any software on the laptop that helped him avoid detection during the flight?
I favor the “northern route” (as opposed to the southern route) and this would give a good basis for how it’s done.
Here is what everyone should be worrying about.
I believe the passengers and/or the Cargo were the target.
US doesn’t want info getting out there.
Freescale is owned by The Carlyle Group and Blackstone.
There are questions about irregularities of that Cargo.
It could be anything..including state of the art weapons.
There is no way I am going to believe the US doesn’t know what happened to that plane at this point.
What about the last big airliner to disappear like this - about ten years ago? It didn’t show up in any big city, in some kind of an attack. They STILL don’t know where it is.
Part of the transponder system is the TCAS system (transponder collision avoidance system) This system allows planes to ping other airplane's transponders to determine location and altitude. It's range is about 30 miles and it puts a symbol and altitude readout on the planes Navigation Display. The weather radar can paint other aircraft nearby, but not very well. The TCAS, however, only works when the transponder is turned on.
They used the same trick in the movie Top Gun, too.
Are you talking about the 727 that supposedly only had two passengers.One of them was a Padilla. Dont think he was related to the terrorist Padilla...at least not closely related.
btw, Padilla’s brother posted on FR about the situation.
Once you begin to seriously consider a plane landed by mass murderers, then that puts an obligation onto all the countries as to how they will respond when the plane is found.
How can any country refuse to take the swiftest, harshest, most extreme positions towards a country that murdered an entire plane of passengers?
-PJ
I wished I could remember what Glen Beck from the Blaze News said that was on that plane and how come no one is giving any thoughts to it.
TOO much psycho babbling and not enough investigating!
Interesting theory.
Most of the mapping showed the southern route into the Indian Ocean or the northern route flying east of India.
One map this morning showed that the plane did have fuel enough to potentially reach Pakistan, Iran or Somalia.
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