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What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide
Business Insider ^ | 3-17-2014 | Alex Davies

Posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by blam

What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide

Alex Davies
March 17, 2014

Not surprisingly, the disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 with 239 people on board more than a week ago has led some people to come up with very interesting theories about what might have happened.

On his Tumblr, self-identified hobby pilot and aviation enthusiast Keith Ledgerwood put forward the most elaborate and interesting suggestion we've heard yet.

He argues the 777 could have flown over India and Pakistan, avoiding military radar detection by turning off its communications systems and following a Singapore Airlines 777 so closely the two aircraft "would have shown up as one single blip on the radar."

In the post, Ledgerwood established that the Singapore Airlines flight was in the area.

The collision avoidance systems installed on all modern airliners operate using the transponder, which someone on the Malaysia flight could have turned off. So the Singapore crew wouldn't have detected a plane on their tail, Ledgerwood speculates.

"Once MH370 had cleared the volatile airspaces and was safe from being detected by military radar sites in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan," Ledgerwood writes, "it would have been free to break off from the shadow of SIA68 and could have then flown a path to it’s final landing site."

We asked Michael G. Fortune, a retired pilot who now works as an aviation consultant and expert witness, if that would be possible. After a lengthy pause, he gave us a skeptical "maybe." It would depend on what kind of radar equipment the Singapore 777 had on board, he said, and would require some serious aviation skill to find and stay behind the plane.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; conspiracytheory; hijack; iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Recently after this happened I saw on Flightracker an Airbus 380 on its way to England, it would have been sufficient of size to hide in its baffles.

Did the pilots simulator have a program on how to do mid air refueling? That would be quite a feat to pull off being that close for such a long time.


2 posted on 03/17/2014 1:40:50 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: blam

That theory reminds me of “Forging a birth certificate and using stolen SSNs to pose as ‘Christian’ and American.”

It’s so crazy, it just might work.

Assuming you’ve got enough NSA dirt on certain Senators, judges and approx 5 media CEO’s.


3 posted on 03/17/2014 1:41:42 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: blam

Maybe MH370 will resurface as the 2016 October surprise, giving BHO an excuse to suspend the election. Think: major US city hit.


4 posted on 03/17/2014 1:43:32 PM PDT by July4
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To: blam

Old WWII trick.


5 posted on 03/17/2014 1:44:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: blam

And now Australia is being called into the search, maybe this guy for some reason went south, maybe to Oz, maybe further.
Who would dare consider looking toward the South Pole?


6 posted on 03/17/2014 1:44:32 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: blam

But how would the Malaysian Air flight 1) know that the Singapore Air flight was there? Was it planned in advance? What if the Singapore Air flight was delayed?


7 posted on 03/17/2014 1:45:25 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: blam; crosslink; hoosiermama; WildHighlander57; LucyT

Ping to thread.

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Also may be of interest:

http://jethead.wordpress.com/2014/03/15/malaysia-flight-370-what-didnt-happen/

Malaysia Flight 370: What Didn’t Happen.


8 posted on 03/17/2014 1:45:40 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Spartan302

If somehow they landed the plane, how are they going to fuel it?


9 posted on 03/17/2014 1:46:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Robe
Pilots Say Disappearance Of Jetliner Points To Meticulous Planning
10 posted on 03/17/2014 1:46:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I glanced at this “theory”, and I think it lacked the factor of altitude.

Presuming a normal airliner at normal altitude of 30,000+ feet, and one well below trying to follow it, there is an
immediate problem. The lower a/c will have a much lower airspeed and be MUCH less fuel efficient.

If there is a tailwind at the lower altitude, perhaps the 370 can “keep up”, or slow down to not overtake. But, perhaps there is a much bigger tailwind that the higher aircraft takes advantage of... so the 370 is out of luck keeping up.

Then there is the issue of endurance. The numbers I saw along the way had a normal altitude aircraft going for 7 hours, whereas at much lower altitude, only for 5.


11 posted on 03/17/2014 1:47:50 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Spartan302

What would happen if the pilot in the first plane pulled a “Crazy Ivan?”


12 posted on 03/17/2014 1:47:51 PM PDT by skams19
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To: blam

Wouldn’t it have been simpler to bribe a handful of Air Traffic Controllers into looking the other way for some 4 hours?

“Hey you guys, take lunch early today. Ahh, just punch out and go home.”


13 posted on 03/17/2014 1:48:15 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: dfwgator

If they landed it, it would probably have to be somewhere that has the infrastructure necessary to refuel and otherwise maintain a large commercial airliner.

That might narrow it down a bit.


14 posted on 03/17/2014 1:49:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: blam

"OK fellas, tighten up our formation on that guy."


15 posted on 03/17/2014 1:49:24 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: skams19
What would happen if the pilot in the first plane pulled a “Crazy Ivan?”

Kaboom.

16 posted on 03/17/2014 1:51:13 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Do I really need ot use the sarcasm tag?)
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To: LyinLibs
That theory reminds me of “Forging a birth certificate and using stolen SSNs to pose as ‘Christian’ and American.”

It seems ∅™ turned off his transponder and ACARS before he ran for pResident.

17 posted on 03/17/2014 1:51:13 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: blam

Flying in formation is a military skill, If the pilot or co-pilot were former military I could see it happening.

As far as the radar is concerned, Most of the current ‘radar’ systems in used to track aircraft are actually transponder systems. A beam from the air traffic control ‘radar’ activates the transponder to cause it to transmit a IFF signal in return. The reason for doing that is obvious, it makes the automation of air traffic control much easier as each flight and aircraft is self-identified.


18 posted on 03/17/2014 1:51:36 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: skams19
Might be a little hard to do with 777's, but...

They coulda gone 'Top Gun' right?

19 posted on 03/17/2014 1:52:28 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: PGR88

What if the host to flight MH370 aircraft was in on the plot?


20 posted on 03/17/2014 1:53:01 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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