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New:Newer;Newest:Missing plane: Piracy Theory Gains More Credence
AP ^ | March 14, 2014 | EILEEN NG and JOAN LOWY

Posted on 03/14/2014 6:34:43 PM PDT by lbryce

Piracy and pilot suicide are among the scenarios under study as investigators grow increasingly certain the missing Malaysia Airlines jet changed course and headed west after its last radio contact with air traffic controllers.

The latest evidence suggests the plane didn't experience a catastrophic incident over the South China Sea as was initially suspected. Some experts theorize that one of the pilots, or someone else with flying experience, hijacked the plane or committed suicide by plunging the jet into the sea.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 777; iran; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh370; waronterror
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To: yield 2 the right

the 1983 Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shoot down...

I always kinda thought they did that to take out
Larry McDonald before he could run for President...


41 posted on 03/14/2014 8:16:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I don’t know but it sounds like someone else other than the pilots were flying the plane when it jump up to 45,000, made the hard west turn, etc... Maybe a hi-jacker with some flying experience had control and thought they had enough fuel to get it across the Indian Ocean. Maybe passengers did not know what was going on at this point. (sleeping?) - Maybe they thought everything was fine or they were scared and trying to figure out how to storm the cockpit for those 3 to 4 hours. Some may have knew during those 3 to 4 hours that they were over water and that there no city lights in view, so they had time to figure out a plan to storm the cockpit.


42 posted on 03/14/2014 8:16:44 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: eyedigress

So the climb to 45,000ft would have been done to cause the Hypoxia?


43 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:14 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That was my early theory. Shot down, probably by Malaysia or China.


44 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:21 PM PDT by virgil
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To: lbryce

Just wait until the next one goes missing.


45 posted on 03/14/2014 8:21:39 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: stlnative

Didnt Flight 93 do the same thing, go to a high altitude and down again so that the passengers would be flying around the plane..or it could have been brought up so that the passengers would not be able to breathe, quick death, no longer a threat to the hijackers..I would also like to know, how far is Pakistan or Iran from this area, could the plane have flown to either location with the amount of fuel it had on board


46 posted on 03/14/2014 8:22:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This explains the climb to 45,000 ft. (as someone said who ever was flying the plane could prepare for the climb) http://www.langleyflyingschool.com/Pages/Human%20Factor—Hypoxia.html


47 posted on 03/14/2014 8:23:36 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Yes


48 posted on 03/14/2014 8:25:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Times of Useful Consciousness at 45,000ft = 12 to 15 seconds or less.

The New York Times, quoting American officials and others familiar with the investigation, said radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the airliner climbing to 45,000 feet (about 13,700 meters), higher than a Boeing 777's approved limit, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar, and making a sharp turn to the west. The radar track then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet (7,000 meters), below normal cruising levels, before rising again and flying northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean, the Times reported.
49 posted on 03/14/2014 8:26:21 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

link to article about the climb to 45,000 ft.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_MALAYSIA_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-13-19-57-30


50 posted on 03/14/2014 8:29:28 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

So they cause everyone on board to die from hypoxia, the cockpit is fine since they have oxygen which can last as long as the plane is in the air, they land it, dump the bodies in some mass grave, and wait for this all to die down, and we shall see the plane again?


51 posted on 03/14/2014 8:32:41 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Cvengr

It will happen, but not anytime soon, unfortunately the terrorists are smarter than all of us..they know what they are doing..and realistically, they already got(If this is what happened) the plane that they wanted, fill it up with nukes, put a nice paint job on it, new logo, and away it goes


52 posted on 03/14/2014 8:34:00 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Brain cells are extremely sensitive to a lack of oxygen. Some brain cells start dying less than 5 minutes after their oxygen supply disappears. As a result, brain hypoxia can rapidly cause severe brain damage or death.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001435.htm


53 posted on 03/14/2014 8:35:43 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Caipirabob
“The next time we'll see this plane, if we ever do, will be just prior to use of a chemical, bio or nuclear payload over a coastal city on the West coast.”

I think that too, unless we have a US installation somewhere that is closer for the plane to get to. They likely don't have enough fuel to get to the west coast.

We would have never thought Muslims could come here and spend all the time they did getting ready for 9-11 and actually manage to do it. If they took the present plane to kill some of us, maybe they screwed up and accidentally crashed the plane in the ocean.

What could they have on that plane that would kill thousands of people that would fit in an approved size carry on bag that wouldn't show up going through a scanner? I doubt it would be biological as they likely want a fast, spectacular kill. Chemicals would kill fast but also dilute in the air quickly.

But remember anthrax and ricin poison. “The CDC categorizes ricin as a “Class B” threat, which is the agency's second-highest threat level. It ranks behind anthrax, botulism, plague, smallpox, tularemia and viral hemorrhagic fevers.”

Smallpox would be deadly but not instantly and hemorrhagic fevers would be the same.

We don't know what happened to that plane and maybe terrorists don't have it. One day we will know.

54 posted on 03/14/2014 8:36:12 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: Sarah Barracuda

A working 777 that can “become” another flight may be very dangerous indeed.

Think “Doolittle” but amplify by 100 megatons.


55 posted on 03/14/2014 8:39:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: lbryce

Your silly theory, whatever it is, we know that it is based on no hard evidence of any kind, this fantasy says more about you, lots about you, and nothing about this incident, sorry. A good shrink would have a field day with all this paranoid nonsense.


56 posted on 03/14/2014 8:40:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They probably died (passengers) after the 45,000 ft climb. Whoever was flying the plane could put oxygen masks on so that they survive. I am guessing that the hard turn to the west and the uneven climb to 23,000 ft was done by someone flying the plane. The military tracked it on radar flying normally for about 200 miles after this I believe. It could be that maybe some of the crew not in on the hi-jack plot where able to get to oxygen without the hi-jacker pilots knowing it and maybe they finally stormed the cockpit at later time or the plane may have simply ran out of fuel and the hi-jackers thought they had enough fuel to land it on land someplace.


57 posted on 03/14/2014 8:43:41 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Cvengr

Now, that is quite the insightful observation, one much too troubling for authorities not to take precautions against. Not that it would help prevent another hijacking of this type to occur, but I’m sure government, airline are now meticulously on alert for this.


58 posted on 03/14/2014 8:43:42 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: TomGuy

Good episode.


59 posted on 03/14/2014 8:45:36 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Where is that plane at cat? Ocean, Land, Twilight Zone?

Please document your belief right here on FR.


60 posted on 03/14/2014 8:47:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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