Posted on 02/25/2014 11:17:31 AM PST by jazusamo
Full title: Col. Oliver North: 'There is no strategy' to the defense budget that reduces military to pre-WWII levels
VIDEO at link: Ollie North up to the 4:45 minute mark.
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Colonel Oliver North joins us. Nice to see you, Colonel.
LT. COL. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, 'WAR STORIES' & FORMERLY U.S. MARINE CORPS: Good to be with you but not on a day like this.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I was going to ask you two things. Two-part question. First, do we have to make cuts in the military? Is that smart and wise? And secondly, what do you think the proposed budget?
NORTH: I think the budget is terrible because it doesn't do the thing that defense budgets are supposed it to do and that is to support a national strategy. There is no strategy to this. Instead of deciding who our enemies and adversaries are and building a force capable of dealing with both, what they have done is they picked a number and then they backed into a budget. In other words, they backed into fore-structure based on the number instead of the other way around. Totally the opposite of what Ronald Reagan did.
President Reagan came to town, came to office promising to build a 600-ship Navy based on years and years of analysis that we needed a Navy that big to protect this country. He created millions of jobs, Greta. People forget that. It wasn't just a matter of putting more people in the military and paying us all better. It was a matter of building the capital equipment, ships, planes, trains, all this stuff that you need to make a military work. Reagan did it. They didn't. They are backing away from it.
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I think the day will come when people will wish they had eliminated a standing army.
it’s driven by the fact that we’re broke.”
Actually it's driven by the fact that the left hates the military because:
1.) The military took an oath to support and defend something (the Constitution) created by a bunch of rich white old men who owned slaves
2.) Money spent on the military could be better spent giving “social handouts” to illegals and deadbeats in exchange for votes.
3.) Our military is hated by the very countries that the treasoncrats and RINO’s in this country idolize such as iran, north korea, china, venezuela, etc, etc.
And when that day comes we will eliminate the standing army.
One way or another.
It doesn’t mean you can not have a standing Army, it means that you can not have an open ended appropriation.
If you look at where most of the money is going
it’s headed towards non-military uses:
retirees, grossly-overpaid civilian contractors, internal “security” apparatus, foreign aid, etc.
Ships and planes cost a lot...and the time of huge fleets of either is over
We’re going through a painful period of transition in the country, from a republic to a plutocracy
And SF, surveillance tools and spies, and light internal security forces are the traditional weapons of plutocrats
/this did not start with us
Strategy or reason are not the issue. There is only one misguided thought.
War is obsolete. f there is no military, there can be no war.
It is that simple
Like Biden, Hagel is a fool
It's a small fraction of that now.
Perhaps the time of huge fleets of ships and planes is over, perhaps it is not.
Rudyard Kipling wrote nearly a century ago:
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.Our problem is not that we spend too much on defense; our problem is that we have too many who vote for a living.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
Exactly.
Below is a list of National Guard divisions, the theater in which they served, their activation, sent overseas, enter combat, and inactivation date(s):
26th Infantry - Eur - Jan 41, Sep 44, Oct 44, Dec 45
27th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Mar 42, Nov 43, Dec 45
28th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 43, Jul 44, Dec 45
29th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 42, Jun 44, Jan 46
30th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Feb 44, Jun 44, Nov 45
31st Infantry - Pac - Nov 40, Apr 44, Jul 44, Dec 45
32nd Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, May 42, Sep 42, Feb 46
33rd Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Jul 43, Sep 44, Feb 46
34th Infantry - Med - Feb 41, Jan 42, Nov 42, Nov 45
35th Infantry - Eur - Dec 40, May 44, Jul 44, Dec 45
36th Infantry - Med & Eur - Nov 40, Apr 43, Sep 43, Dec 45
37th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Jun 42, Jul 43, Dec 45
38th Infantry - Pac - Jan 41, Jan 44, Jul 44, Nov 45
40th Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Sep 42, Apr 44, Apr 46
41st Infantry - Pac - Sep 40, May 42, Jan 43, Dec 45
42nd Infantry - Eur - Jul 43, Dec 44, Dec 44, Jul 46
44th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Sep 44, Oct 44, Nov 45
45th Infantry - Med & Eur - Sep 40, Jan 43, Jul 43, Dec 45
Most of these units served in WW1, at least two served in Korea and/or Vietnam also. The 29th took part in the D-day landings in Normandy.
“but Col. North is wise enough not to say what it is on television.”
Why is it not wise to say it? What are we afraid of?
No argument here
That is some of the NG units, but I personally know of at least several more not on your list that serve active duty positions on a daily basis and have gone overseas to support GW1, GWII, and A’stan to this day.
“Most of us are too young to remember pre-WW2 USA, but us historians remember our military was in such shambles that they drilled back then with broom sticks rather than rifles.”
That is true, my grandfather was in the 101st Field Artillery and at the start of WW2 they were still running around with horse drawn field guns.
Hell there’s old video out there of our “armor corps” training with plywood mock ups placed over light trucks because they didn’t have any actual tanks to train with.
“I think the day will come when people will wish they had eliminated a standing army.”
I think you mean the department of homeland security.
Right now there is only two things that is keeping empERROR zero and his America hating treasoncrats from going all crazy eye king george the third on us:
Our military, and the Second Amendment.
The first article is the real problem.
Military Waste and Fraud Continue In the Middle of the Government Shutdown Washington’s Blog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/wasted-military.html
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1
Mugging the Military
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9466-mugging-soldiers/
Mugging our Troops (TN US Sen RINO lamar Alexander voted to
Mugging our Troops.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1
0bama to Force Military Families Away From Tricare ...By Tripling Their Fees.
Thanks for the info. Guard units seem to be of WW I origin and later deactivated. Here is the history of 42nd Div of which I was a member. In WW II they were regular divisions staffed by regular army and draftees and deactivated as army divisions at the end of the war. I knew nobody as a guard member. In the Iraq war they already existed as a Guard unit, served time and returned as a unit.
” With the onset of America’s participation in the Second World War, the 42nd Division was reactivated. At the July 1943 reactivation ceremony, the new division commander, Brigadier General Harry Collins echoed MacArthur’s sentiments on the 42nd Division’s unique status when he said, “The Rainbow represents the people of our country.”
The 42nd landed in France in December 1944 and as part of the 7th Army, advanced through France and entered Germany in March of 1945. It was during the 42nd Division’s rapid advance through Germany in April 1945 that they, along with the Guard’s 45th Infantry Division, liberated the infamous Dachau concentration camp.
By the end of the war, the 42nd Division had established an enviable record. It was first in its corps to enter Germany, first to penetrate the Seigfried line and first into Munich. Rainbow soldiers had seized over 6,000 square miles of Nazi held territory during their march across Europe. The Division ended the war serving as occupation forces in Austria and was inactivated in June 1946.”
Japs ran into the same issue later in the war. They prepared for it, we were not, they did not count on our tenacity to fight 2 wars at the same time.
We didn’t have STUPID ROE’s either. My dad fought under MacArthur for 6 yrs. Staff Sgt, he and a PFC put Old Glory back up on THE ROCK when old Mack was retaking it under sniper fire, both won Bronze Stars. It stayed up 2 weeks until the battle was won, then moved to another location in an official Flag Raising event. BIL under Merrill for 6 yrs.
We were talking about the memorial to the National Guard at Omaha Beach Normandy in post #32.
Agreed
Thanks, your first link article is spot on. John Murtha was infamous for the corrupt defense spending he maintained for umpteen years but there were many others and are still, probably just as corrupt as he. The sums are not counted in millions but in billions, it’s outrageous.
“42nd Div of which I was a member”
What unit?
I myself was with 1/101FA out of New Bedford for a short time.
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