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Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo
PoliticusUSA ^ | February 22, 2014 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 02/22/2014 2:15:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So we have reached the aporia of the Right’s main argument against President Obama, wherein their arguments are deconstructing themselves via their own rhetoric undermining their claims.

Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president. And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.

Leading this charge is the still bitter Sarah Palin, whose behavior post 2008 loss makes John McCain’s look magnanimous and mature. Palin posited that after Obama left Americans for “destroyed”, the press finally woke up. Palin seems to miss the fact that she is still free after all of these many years of traitor-adjacent behavior to write and speak whatever she pleases, no matter how egregious, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

No brownshirts have come for Palin. Yet she wrote this on her Facebook page, as if Obama were Hitler, just as elected Republicans across the country inaccurately portray him:

"What? Lamestream calls for empathy, even outrage, for a First Amendment violation that’s on par with all the abuse we’ve brought to your attention as Obama stomps on our Constitution. You’ve IGNORED us, you’ve marginalized us, you’ve left us for “destroyed.” But when Obama’s boot is on YOUR neck you finally wake the h*ll up and cry foul? Good Lord."

Then she linked to this Breitbart article bemoaning the loss of freedom under this President, as if George W. Bush’s “free speech zones” and silencing of the Dixie Chicks had never happened.

They were for it before they were against it, apparently. (According to the very conservative ACLJ’s press release, the press actually had a “significant” First Amendment and free press victory today as the Obama administration pulled the plug on a newsroom “monitoring” system – aka, studying “perceived station bias.”, a thing conservatives are very against, as you might imagine.)

A dictator would never have allowed Sarah Palin to attack him while on foreign soil, during a time of war and while the country faced a huge financial crisis, no less. This is why the foreign press called Sarah Palin a traitor, while our own press continues to give her and her fellow Republicans (it says a lot about the party that Palin is no longer the most outrageous attack dog) access as if the things she says are not outrageous.

“And now she turns not only against the fibre and backbone of her country, but against its democratically elected President… “

That was in 2010, and Sarah Palin and the GOP have hardly let up since then.

While the right gets Martin Bashir fired for his suggestion that Sarah Palin might not think policy issues were just like slavery if she actually knew anything about slavery, when the Dixie Chicks said they were ashamed that Bush was from Texas, their music was shut out by mainstream outlets around the country:

"Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush’s plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time."

The Right has a very selective sense of free speech and free press.

And while the finer points of their failed arguments can be endlessly mocked, it really comes down to one thing. If Obama really were the dictator they accuse him of being, none of them would be free to continue accusing him of being a dictator.

If you are allowed to have public discussions about executive branch decisions with which you disagree, and you are not being shunned for it or fired over it, then you are most likely not living under a dictator.

Living under a dictator would be more like it was under George W. Bush, when even “liberal Hollywood” shrank in fear of being accused of being unpatriotic. So they turned their backs on Michael Moore’s March 23, 2003 Oscar speech — and on film sets in the weeks that followed, hard core liberals expressed disdain for the disrespect for our president, calling Moore’s behavior uncivilized (public shaming is a good silencer). I was there.

What was Moore’s crime? He spoke out against the war Bush had just started, just days prior. This is what he said that caused such a disruption — compare this to what Republicans say every single day about a President who did NOT lead us into a war on false pretenses. Moore referenced the way Bush was not really elected (a fact, he was appointed by the United States Supreme Court), and that the war was based on fictitious reasons (also true):

"We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious President.

We — We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
 Whether it’s the fictition of duct tape or the fictitious [sic] of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush.

Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.

And any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."

So it’s odd that Republicans keep accusing President Obama of being exactly what George W. Bush was in reality — a fake president, with dictator-esque tendencies. Under Bush, this country edged closer to a state of fascism, in which the people were kept in line through constant fear. People were arrested for wearing t-shirts that criticized Bush. ABC reported:

The Bush administration has agreed to pay $80,000 to a husband and wife who were ejected from a presidential rally because of their anti-Bush T-shirts. The settlement ends a suit brought by a Texas couple and the American Civil Liberties Union, claiming the couple’s First Amendment rights were violated when they were arrested and removed from a taxpayer-funded event featuring President Bush because their shirts read “Love America, Hate Bush” and “Regime Change Starts at Home.”

From terror alert levels to arrests for wearing the wrong t-shirt near the President to having your business ruined because you spoke out against what turned out to be an illegal war, things were bleak under Bush.

It turns out that Moore was correct. A boot on your neck? PBS reported, “And Moore was booed, stalked and threatened for it. He had to get a security detail to protect him from the death threats (some of which were encouraged by the media), and he claims that Homeland Security scratched up his Oscar at the airport on the way home.”

When you are openly criticizing the President of the United States and not too subtly trying to incite an overthrow of the government because you are still bitter that you lost to him, and no one comes to arrest you, the President is not a dictator. When you are still invited to have a reality TV show funded in part by the taxpayers of this country, the President is not a dictator. When you are still deemed to be civilized company and not being shunned for daring to suggest that you oppose something the President is doing, the President is not a dictator.

That is one fact of which you can be sure: President Obama is not a dictator and he is not silencing dissent. The proof is the fact that Sarah Palin is not in Gitmo. She is, in fact, making a living off of taxpayer money that Obama could easily put a stop to if he were that kind of petty, thin-skinned dictator — were he a Chris Christie type, for example, or a Nixon, or a Bush.

Note: For the fact challenged who got Martin Bashir fired, I did not say Sarah Palin should be in Gitmo. I am against Gitmo, just as Bashir is against slavery.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; michaelmoore; obama; palin; sarahpalin; stupid
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To: mountainlion
Lol.

Oh, that makes sense now. Thank you for explaining.

PS. You have been around Liberals too long. You are starting to sound like them — “black is really white.”

61 posted on 02/22/2014 2:55:39 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to tell Poitico, just you wait, Obama is working hard to make that happen.


62 posted on 02/22/2014 2:56:37 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jones is insane, certifiable; psychotic, schizophrenic; mad, deranged, demented, out of one's mind, non compos mentis, unhinged, unbalanced, unstable, disturbed, crazed; informal crazy, (stark) raving mad, not all there, bushed, bonkers, cracked, psycho, batty, cuckoo, loony, loopy, loco, nuts, screwy, bananas, crackers, wacko, off one's rocker, out of one's tree, around the bend, mad as a hatter, buggy.

Imho, of course.

63 posted on 02/22/2014 2:58:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lurk
Abusive parties sometimes use jails. They have other weapons at their disposal. The media. The alphabet agencies. The loyalists. Attorneys. Palin has been on the receiving end of them all.

Especially the attorneys and lawsuits; which is the only reason she resigned from the Governor's office. You know, if she ever does run for President, she will have ample opportunity to speak to the American people about that episode of Democrat dirty tricks, at the behest of Obama supporters. It will be interesting to see if her explanation changes minds about that event.

64 posted on 02/22/2014 2:58:40 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Living under a dictator would be more like it was under George W. Bush, when even “liberal Hollywood” shrank in fear of being accused of being unpatriotic.

Oh good grief, this woman is delusional! Michael Moore became quite rich, while George W. Bush was President, and so did all of the liberal Hollywood elite. They certainly were not hurt by the Bush Presidency. He also didn't order IRS audits on those who were vocal in their opposition to him.

65 posted on 02/22/2014 3:01:09 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Several outspoken journalists are deceased, including Andrew Breitbart. Dinesh D’Souza and a multitude of others charged, one film-maker jailed on trumped up charges over Benghazi. More often we see the politicians seeming to demur from any kind of action just when we thought they would act on behalf of the Republic. Witness Boehner. Not to mention the bizarre ruling of John Roberts in favor of Obamacare. How many politicians and judges do we suspect were coerced with extortion or bribery? Democrats better wake up.
66 posted on 02/22/2014 3:04:14 PM PST by Missouri gal
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To: dhs12345

PS. You have been around Liberals too long.

I have 26 years in Federal employment. Please forgive me.


67 posted on 02/22/2014 3:04:16 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The comments section of the linked article at “PoliticusUSA” are far more reactionary than even the original writer, Sarah Jones. I thought about posting in reply, but what’s the point?

From their “perspective” conservatives are the true oppressors. We are for the return of slavery, silencing all opposition, and, conservatives (they say republican) are the “laughing stock” of the world.

Where does one even begin to attempt to persuade people with such sheer blindness and anger? How does one begin to unravel such a twisted view of reality?

If they had their way, WE WOULD be in gitmo.

Hitler didn’t throw people in the concentration camps as soon as he came to power. He bided his time until the right moment. The opposition parties outnumbered his and could have stopped his agenda, but they never united against him to stop him. He began to ignore Germany’s constitutional restrictions on the powers of the Chancellor little by little. By the time they saw their mistake it was too late.

Once firmly in power in Germany, Hitler began doing the same thing with Europe. He simply ignored the Versailles Treaty a little at a time, he moved his troops into the Sudetenland, into Czechoslovakia, into Austria, each time waiting to see the reaction of the West - the only consequences were feeble protests and letters of “outrage”. Nothing and no one tried to stop him.

Obama is operating the government by executive order. He does not answer to congress nor abide by the Constitution’s retraints on the power of the presidency. He chooses which federal laws he will enforce and which he will ignore. He changes specific aspects of laws passed by congress at his whim for political reasons. Other than subdued protest, no one does anything - not the courts, not the congress. We as American citizens no longer have representation in our government to protect us. We have no “standing” to sue the president (according to “appointed for life” federal judges). Federal judges set aside state laws duly passed by state’s legislatures, or they set aside laws enacted by a majority vote of the state’s citizenry.

Obama and his regime use the Justice Dept, the IRS, and the NSA to spy (along with the main stream media), to intimidate, to mock, to marginalize/destroy their opposition. He answers to no one and no one questions his actions (other than those radical racist tea party types).

So, yes, Obama doesn’t put conservatives in Gitmo. . . yet.


68 posted on 02/22/2014 3:07:18 PM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: FReepers; 2ndDivisionVet; KC_Lion; napscoordinator; navymom1; Nextrush; Nik Naym; NoGrayZone; ...
She wrote nothing of the sort, but I'm sure happy she got at least one desired result from a communist. More to follow, I'm sure. They run in packs...lol.




What?
Lamestream calls for empathy, even outrage, for a First Amendment violation that's on par with all the abuse we've brought to your attention as Obama stomps on our Constitution.

You've IGNORED us, you've marginalized us, you've left us for "destroyed."

But when Obama's boot is on YOUR neck you finally wake the h*ll up and cry foul?

Good Lord.

~ Sarah Palin

69 posted on 02/22/2014 3:07:19 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah you ignorant, misguided slut! Once again, you missed the point entirely... he doesn't want to make her a martyr and it's sometimes better to have an enemy to rally against than to kill it you stooopid cow you
70 posted on 02/22/2014 3:08:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: central_va
100%!!!
71 posted on 02/22/2014 3:09:34 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: onyx

Jones is nuts. God bless Sarah Palin.


72 posted on 02/22/2014 3:10:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And if they put HER in, WE would bust her out!

I think the Marines at Gitmo would lend a helping hand.

73 posted on 02/22/2014 3:10:52 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president.

Someone should tell Sarah Jones that Jonathon Turley thinks so too.

74 posted on 02/22/2014 3:14:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo”

That is beyond a doubt, one of the most idiotic statements I have ever read- If anything like that was attempted by the Kenyan, there would be a public uprising not seen in my lifetime, in this country.

Maybe we could learn something from the Romanian citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu


75 posted on 02/22/2014 3:15:50 PM PST by matthew fuller (I don't think Obama is subhuman.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve met stupid people in my life, this guy is the best.


76 posted on 02/22/2014 3:18:28 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no arguing with ideologues like Jones here.

There’s no possibility of rational debate with ideologues like Sarah Jones.

There’s no possibility of co-existing with ideologues like Sarah Jones.

The only reality that exists with such people is that it will either be them or you.

They will tell you they are not murdering you when shoving a knife in your heart.

We are already in the midst of civil war.

It simply has not yet become a purge and bloodbath that history teaches us that times such as these will become.


77 posted on 02/22/2014 3:20:16 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ms. Jones, you people have been licking Barry’s shoes so long your tongues look like a Chow Chow’s, and Barry apparently still thinks the problem is that you’re not servile enough. Go get bent.


78 posted on 02/22/2014 3:25:02 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: onyx

Jones needs to make an appointment for a brain matter checkup.


79 posted on 02/22/2014 3:25:47 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Aevery_Freeman; onyx; All
If she is over twelve, she should be ashamed of her writing skills.

Well bless her heart .. the poor thing was probably finding it hard to separate fact from fiction while maintaining firm liplock.

Sadly, in her silly little white-guilt-suffused world, if it wasn't this magic negrø, it'd be another one.

80 posted on 02/22/2014 3:26:26 PM PST by tomkat
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