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The Electric Car Boondoggle (Cost comparisons)
American Thinker ^ | February 22, 2014 | Matthew Hurwitz

Posted on 02/22/2014 10:58:52 AM PST by jazusamo

There are two electric cars on the market that have received a lot of attention in the media. One is GM's Chevy Volt and the other is the Tesla Model S. Extravagant claims have been made by both manufacturers to have us believe that these that these automobiles are practical and economical to drive. As we shall see, that is not really true when one takes into account all the factors which contribute to the total operating cost of each of these two vehicles.

Chevy Volt

The manufacturer claims that "The Chevy Volt is the most fuel-efficient car with a gasoline engine currently sold in the U.S. -- and it's easy to see why. While most plug-in cars can make it about 20 miles tops before switching to hybrid mode, the Volt can run up to 38 miles on battery before switching over to its 1.4-liter four-cylinder engine." GM describes their product as follows: "The Volt is powered by an electric motor that's connected to a 1.4-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine. It runs exclusively on battery power until the charge drops to 30 percent and the gas motor kicks in. There are four modes -- Normal, Hold, Sport and Mountain ....When running on gasoline, the Volt returns 35 mpg city and 40 mpg highway." When all of the energy, battery plus gasoline, is used the total range of the car is 270 miles. At that point one must recharge the battery which takes nearly 10 hours if the car is plugged into a 120 V outlet. The charging time is less if one has a 240 V outlet and a special battery charger.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allelectrics; chevyvolt; efv; electicvehicles; electriccars; energy; evs; hybrids; tesla
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Plus taxpayers foot a $7500 federal tax credit and various state tax credits for every one of these EV's sold as well as federal and state subsidies to the manufacturers of the cars and batteries.
1 posted on 02/22/2014 10:58:52 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Think the average American idiot knows what amortize means?

We live in an Idiocracy. We are far outnumbered and swirling down the drain quickly.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 11:10:56 AM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: jazusamo

Used Tesla S Class cars are now worth more than new models. They have become instant collectors items. I’ve seen them at classic car shows.

Teslas won’t even start to move from must haves of the wealthy —to middle class must haves until their price moves down to 35k in 2016—as promised.


3 posted on 02/22/2014 11:12:03 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: jazusamo

electric car - attached garage - fire - no thanks


4 posted on 02/22/2014 11:13:04 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: jazusamo

The Volt gets 40mpg hwy ... BFD! there are many gas only cars that do the same at 1/3 the cost ... and the Volt , here in Florida , will have the gas engine running 100% of the time as it’s needed for the A/C to operate...


5 posted on 02/22/2014 11:13:10 AM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: jazusamo

EV’s are perfect for touchy/feely Metrosexual TV commercials.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 11:16:07 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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Has anyone made a comparison of the cost of INSURANCE between the Volt and the Tesla compared to cars they were matched against.
Insurance costs are never ending cost of owning a car. If one drives a paltry 100 miles a year, the insurance costs must still be paid, and factored in.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 11:16:53 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Neidermeyer

Yep, and they’re a disaster in below freezing weather.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 11:16:56 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: ckilmer

Do they come with an onboard fire detection and suppression system?


9 posted on 02/22/2014 11:19:10 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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10 posted on 02/22/2014 11:19:50 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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The author is basically right. Currently, electric cars don’t make economic sense. However, there are some other factors that are never considered in comparisons like this one. For example, how nice would it be to never have to spend time at a gas station? Does anyone enjoy their time at the gas station? I doubt it. How much leisure and other productive time is wasted just with the process of purchasing gasoline? Let’s suppose that you spend 20 minutes of your life per week getting gas. That’s like 17 hours per year. Suppose you spent that 17 hours doing something that you enjoy. An economic value should be assigned to that. Do other factors such as the one I’ve mentioned justify purchase of an electric vehicle economically? Probably not, but such factors can’t be totally ignored either.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 11:21:07 AM PST by irishjuggler
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IOW, a car good for half the year in Minnesota.

Nice if you’re a trust fund leftist like our governor.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 11:26:31 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: jazusamo

The author seeks to gain credibility with his math skill.

“The cost to fill the 9 gallon tank with $4 a gallon gas is $38.”

Being a car guy and a math guy, I lost interest at that point.

Anybody driving a vehicle other than the cheapest to operate, is deciding on non-economic criteria.

Gas-electric hybrid works great. Electric only not so much, with some exceptions.

Do we have any people here that would pick a Corvette over say a Cruze?

A major goal in life for many, is to reach a point where not all decisions have to be just economics.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 11:30:36 AM PST by truth_seeker (Nissan)
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I would agree that people strive for luxuries and economics should not be the main factor for those people.

However all taxpayers are subsidizing electrics and hybrids for those that can afford them when in fact they themselves cannot afford them, in my view that’s wrong.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 11:35:28 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
south park smug photo: GOOD FOR YOU! south_park_smug.jpg

Hybrids and electric cars have nothing to do with economics but have everything to do with hipster smugness.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 11:54:28 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: jazusamo

the world’s dependence on liquid fuel from
the middle east is the root cause
of immense human suffering.
...................
electric cars,
you have to start somewhere.
the Volt is a great car,
but it costs too much for
what you get.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 12:06:27 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: jazusamo

The Volt.....Chevies Jubilee


17 posted on 02/22/2014 12:10:28 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Snickering Hound
Is it hipster smugness to have the quickest badass cars around?

If so, sign me up for the course.

18 posted on 02/22/2014 12:12:59 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Neidermeyer

Chevy destroyed its own argument for the Volt when they created the Cruze Eco.

Under $20,000, 46 MPG highway. 500+ mile range. No battery costs in the future.

The Cruze Diesel might make that discrepancy even worse. I hear it has a 700+ mile range.


19 posted on 02/22/2014 12:13:21 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: jazusamo

Can’t imaging being in rush hour traffic in sub freezing and needing to run the heater. Just what is the effective “mpg” for an EV in heavy traffic with the heater running?


20 posted on 02/22/2014 12:14:39 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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