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Is America Doomed to Become a Failed European-Style Welfare State?
Townhall.com ^ | February 20, 2014 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 02/20/2014 11:18:56 AM PST by Kaslin

When I give speeches around the country, I often get asked whether it’s time to give up.

More specifically, has America reached a tipping point, with too many people riding in the wagon of government dependency and too few people creating wealth and pulling the wagon in the right direction?

These questions don’t surprise me, particularly since my speeches frequently include very grimBIS, OECD, and IMF data showing that the long-run fiscal problem in the United States is larger than it is in some nations that already are facing fiscal crisis.

But that doesn’t mean I have a good answer. I think there is a tipping point, to be sure, but I’m not sure whether there’s a single variable that tells us when we’ve reached the point of no return.

Is it when government spending consumes 50 percent of economic output? That would be a very bad development if the burden of government spending reached that level, but it’s not necessarily fatal. Back in the early 1990s, the public sector was that big in Canada, yet policy makers in that country were able to restrain budgetary growth and put the country on a positive path. Sweden is another nation that has turned the corner. Government spending peaked at 67 percent of GDP in the early 1990s, but is now down to 47 percent of GDP after years of free-market reforms.

Is it when a majority of households are getting government handouts? That’s also a worrisome development, especially if those folks see the state as a means of living off their fellow citizens. But taking a check from Uncle Sam doesn’t automatically mean a statist mindset. As one of my favorite people opined, “some government beneficiaries – such as Social Security recipients – spent their lives in the private sector and are taking benefits simply because they had no choice but to participate in the system.”

Is it when a majority of people no longer pay income taxes, leaving a shrinking minority to bear all the burden of financing government? It’s not healthy for society when most people think government is “free,” particularly if they perceive an incentive to impose even higher burdens on those who do pay. And there’s no question that the overwhelming majority of the tax burden is borne by the top 10 percent. There’s little evidence, though, that the rest of the population thinks there’s no cost to government – perhaps because many of them pay heavy payroll taxes.

I explore these issues in this interview with Charles Payne.

Dan Mitchell Discussing the Tipping Point when America Becomes a Failed Welfare State

The main takeaway from the interview is that the tipping point is not a number, but a state of mind. It’s the health of the nation’s “social capital.”

So for what it’s worth, the country will be in deep trouble if and when the spirit of self-reliance becomes a minority viewpoint. And the bad news is that we’re heading in that direction.

The good news is that we’re not close to the point of no return. There is some polling data, for instance, showing that Americans still have a much stronger belief in liberty than their European counterparts.

And we’ve even made a small bit of progress against big government in the past few years.

I speculated in the interview that we probably have a couple of decades to save the country, but it will become increasingly difficult to make the necessary changes – such as entitlement reform andwelfare decentralization – as we get closer to 2020 and 2030.

Welfare State Wagon CartoonsAnd if those changes don’t occur…?

That’s a very grim subject. I fully understand why some Americans are thinking about the steps they should take to protect their families if reforms don’t occur and a crisis occurs.

Indeed, this to me is one of the most compelling arguments against gun control. If America begins to suffer the chaos and disarray that we’ve seen in nations such as Greece, it’s better to well-armed.

Though maybe there will be some nations that remain stable as the world’s welfare states collapse. And if emigration is your preferred option, I’d bet on Australia.

But wouldn’t it be better to fix what’s wrong and stay in America?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cabal; cfr; economy; google; hillary; nwo; obama; planned; soros; welfare
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1 posted on 02/20/2014 11:18:56 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

YES!


2 posted on 02/20/2014 11:19:27 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Kaslin

Yes.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 11:20:46 AM PST by YourAdHere (I flip off all Obama bumper stickers.)
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To: Kaslin

Considering the general state of knowledge, reason and motivation in America today, yes.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 11:23:03 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Kaslin

Support Trey Gowdy during the coming House Member Rebellion Election to be the new Speaker of the House by April 15, 2014.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 11:24:19 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kaslin

Until CW-II, yes indeed.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 11:24:50 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 02/20/2014 11:25:27 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kaslin

Yes!


8 posted on 02/20/2014 11:26:52 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Kaslin

It appears the american intelligentsia is not really very intelligent..
That our “smartest” ones are not very smart.

The “creme” has curdled.. the head authority has become bald.. the big fish are minnows..

The FREE have become slaves.. “THE”______ (well you know)..


9 posted on 02/20/2014 11:26:54 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Kaslin

we are in worse shape...the European countries don’t have to put up with the “diversity” that we do.....they’re one people....we are not....far from it...


10 posted on 02/20/2014 11:28:44 AM PST by cherry
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To: Da Coyote
Until CW-II, yes indeed.

Would it be CW-III?

Just thinking that the war of 1760 or so thru 1812, most heated during 1776 thru 1783, was somewhat a civil war (1/3 patriots versus 1/3 tories), somewhat a world war (England/France/etc - German Hessians, Dutch money...).

11 posted on 02/20/2014 11:29:24 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Kaslin

The proof of the tipping point for me was Obama being elected for a second term. The voting public voted for more economic destruction just to get more free stuff via government debt and taxation.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 11:29:36 AM PST by DB
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To: Kaslin
Yes.And as a result I must say that I'm *very* glad that I'm far closer to the grave than to the cradle.I figure I've got a few more years left of having enough $$$ to relax a bit and have some fun but I expect the collapse to come soon.When it's arrived we'll *all* be in a world of hurt.

I fear most for the younger people of this country for they,unlike me,will never have an extended period of relative prosperity.

13 posted on 02/20/2014 11:31:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama: "I can do whatever I want")
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To: Kaslin

you mean we aren’t there yet?


14 posted on 02/20/2014 11:32:13 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin
Worse.

At least Europeans are smart. They'll figure it out and adjust. Norway is already reforming, and they're doing it without much economic pressure. The country sits on a pile of money made selling oil from the North Sea.

The USA, OTOH, is being filled with morons who will make the same mistake over and over.

Your everyday South American socialist dictatorship is the model -- lots of poor people competing with each other to breed more poor people who all want someone else to take care of their families.

15 posted on 02/20/2014 11:33:12 AM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: Kaslin; onyx; JustAmy; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; STARWISE; ...

Not if we don’t surrender.

Never give-in, never give-up, never surrender!!

We don’t retreat, we reload!!

We are the resistance.


16 posted on 02/20/2014 11:33:58 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DB
2012 WAS the tipping point.

Now all of the GOPe need to be purged.

17 posted on 02/20/2014 11:34:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: DB
The proof of the tipping point for me was Obama being elected for a second term.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I agree - the takers outnumber the makers. If we last long enough we can educate a new generation and maybe turn that around... but the takers are having babies, too.

18 posted on 02/20/2014 11:35:37 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Kaslin

If America falls, it will be because of Christians.

2 CHRONICLES 7:14

If My people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 11:36:41 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Indeed.

No surrender. No retreat.

20 posted on 02/20/2014 11:37:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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