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The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality ("Most Popular" BBC hurl today!)
BBC ^ | February 17, 2014 | William Kremer

Posted on 02/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp

In the last two decades, dozens of scientific papers have been published on the biological origins of homosexuality - another announcement was made last week. It's becoming scientific orthodoxy. But how does it fit with Darwin's theory of evolution?

...boys with older brothers are significantly more likely to become gay - with every older brother the chance of homosexuality increases by about a third. No-one knows why this is, but one theory is that with each male pregnancy, a woman's body forms an immune reaction to proteins that have a role in the development of the male brain.

Brothers of a different kind - identical twins - also pose a tricky question. Research has found that if an identical twin is gay, there is about a 20% chance that the sibling will have the same sexual orientation. While that's a greater likelihood than random, it's lower than you might expect for two people with the same genetic code.

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"...if an identical twin is gay, there is about a 20% chance that the sibling will have the same sexual orientation."

Only a 20% chance? Must be a typo!

1 posted on 02/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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RE :”In the last two decades, dozens of scientific papers have been published on the biological origins of homosexuality - another announcement was made last week. It's becoming scientific orthodoxy. But how does it fit with Darwin's theory of evolution?”

The gay gene theory is not compatible with natural selection theory.

Oh if only Darwin was here to straighten that one out.

2 posted on 02/18/2014 7:26:43 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: Seizethecarp

More likely explanation: Older brother often ‘messes about’ a little with younger brother.


3 posted on 02/18/2014 7:27:07 AM PST by expat2
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To: sickoflibs

“It’s becoming scientific orthodoxy.”

More like a scientific WTF!


4 posted on 02/18/2014 7:29:07 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

The evolutionary puzzle of homosexuality >>>>>>>>>>>>>

What is it you want to know about the Darwin Award?


5 posted on 02/18/2014 7:31:06 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Seizethecarp

The ‘last boy born is gay’ theory cited above looks like more likely psychological, not neurological.

Which boy is more likely to become mentally ill?


6 posted on 02/18/2014 7:39:00 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: Seizethecarp
with every older brother the chance of homosexuality increases by about a third. No-one knows why this is, but one theory is that with each male pregnancy, a woman's body forms an immune reaction to proteins that have a role in the development of the male brain.

Actually, this is not unreasonable.

One of my bigger pet peeves is the routine confusion between "inborn" and "genetic."

Let us assume, for purposes of discussion, that much if not most homosexuality is present at birth. There are two potential explanations: genetics and fetal development. IOW, a flaw in the blueprint or mistakes in how those blueprints were assembled.

Yet discussion of the issue is generally limited to whether a genetic cause can be found.

Most birth defects are a result not of genetic abnormalities but of fetal development issues. It is reasonable, IMO, to consider inborn homosexual tendencies a type of birth defect, at least from a Darwinian POV.

7 posted on 02/18/2014 7:43:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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Pretty certain that all other violations of God's law emanate from genetics as well...

So (the argument goes), it would be immoral (according to our standard) for God to judge our homosexuality because He is the One who made us this way.

This logic can easily be applied to larceny, sexual promiscuity, deviant sexuality (pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, etc), substance abuse, etc.

Voila! Man has turned the tables on God (he thinks), allowing man to reject God on moral grounds! In essence, man has made himself God.

What an original 'modern' philosophy, right? I'll bet God never saw this coming...

You said in your heart, "I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.

- Isaiah 14:13

8 posted on 02/18/2014 7:44:09 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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“scientists” trying furiously to prove that this is a natural thing, rather than an aberration. This is not true science.


9 posted on 02/18/2014 7:46:59 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Seizethecarp

So that logic says boys with older sisters will have a sex change?.


10 posted on 02/18/2014 7:47:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Seizethecarp

We encourage more homosexuality by tolerating it.


11 posted on 02/18/2014 7:48:41 AM PST by onedoug
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Examples of beneficial human mutations in evolutionary literature :
1. Sickle Cell Anemia
2. Cystic Fibrosis
3. Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase Deficiency
4. Tay-Sachs Disease
5. Autism
6. Rape
7. Murder
8. Stupidity

12 posted on 02/18/2014 7:51:58 AM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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>>...boys with older brothers are significantly more likely to become gay - with every older brother the chance of homosexuality increases by about a third

Maybe because all the older brothers call the younger one a f**?


13 posted on 02/18/2014 7:57:06 AM PST by struggle
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To: Seizethecarp
Research has found that if an identical twin is gay, there is about a 20% chance that the sibling will have the same sexual orientation. While that's a greater likelihood than random, it's lower than you might expect for two people with the same genetic code.

Not only do they share the same genetic code, they also shared the same pre-birth and, normally, post-birth environment.

To separate out the pre-birth from post-birth contributions, one would have to study identical twins separated at birth. Compare their rate of homosexuality to identical twins raised together.

It would also be useful to study identical twins versus fraternal twins. Same, or nearly, pre and post birth environments, but differing genetic codes.

Or one could compare adopted children to actual siblings to determine, to some extent, how much family environment matters as compared to genetics.

14 posted on 02/18/2014 8:06:46 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: struggle

Did you grow up around me and my younger brothers?


15 posted on 02/18/2014 8:06:53 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Seizethecarp

If it’s genetic or “in born”, why would it be more likely that boys abused as children by men have a better chance of being gay?

If gays are born that way, you wouldn’t be able to “turn” gay would you?

And how exactly would you be able to tell the difference between someone who was “born gay” vs “turned gay”?

You can’t because it’s a behavior, not trait.


16 posted on 02/18/2014 8:13:43 AM PST by fruser1
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We encourage more homosexuality by tolerating it.

If a man were to walk into a room full of men women and children and declare, "I have sex with women". He would be regarded as rude, perverse or even a pedophile.

Yet, another man can walk into a room full of men women and children and declare, "I am gay", which is the same thing as saying, "I have sex with men". And, we are supposed to celebrate it?

When gays publically declare their, er, affections, I regard it as someone saying, "look at my crotch while I tell you about my libido."

17 posted on 02/18/2014 8:13:48 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Seizethecarp
with every older brother the chance of homosexuality increases by about a third

If "homosexuality" includes "lesbianism", which ordinarily it does, this statement reduces to meaningless mush, doesn't it?

18 posted on 02/18/2014 8:16:39 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Seizethecarp
"boys with older brothers are significantly more likely to become gay - with every older brother the chance of homosexuality increases by about a third"

What utter bull crap! I have 3 older brothers, so if I do the math, that would make me definitely gay. And my younger brother (5 boys in the family) would be 133% gay. My beautiful wife and 4 children and my brother's wife and their 2 children prove these "scientists" are nothing more than paid political hacks.

19 posted on 02/18/2014 8:18:17 AM PST by reegs
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These people believe that gender is a malleable construct of societal influences but homosexuality is something you are born with. Insane.


20 posted on 02/18/2014 8:19:28 AM PST by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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