[TomGuy]

Every one of them — McCain, Graham, Rubio, et al — promise that.

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If it is so important, why are they not ENFORCING existing laws? Then, they wouldn’t need new immigration reform.

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Senator Paul has fallen for (or expects us to believe) the same ole ‘secure the border’ canard politicians have been spouting for the last 15+ years.

If they were interested, if they were serious, they could do it now.

Senator, Hispandering doesn’t look good on ya.

[CitizenUSA]

Congress is a dysfunctional mess. Where is the border wall that was mandated by legislation? Um, doesn’t exist. Then you have a cadre of liberal judges who mock our laws and constitution, making up new “rights” to push political agendas. Finally, you have President Barack Obama who simply picks and chooses which laws to enforce.

Is there any reason whatsoever to think new immigration laws and an amnesty will change the situation? Some (not necessarily all) illegals will participate in an amnesty, but the incentives that drive illegal immigration would still exist. As 11+ (++?) are legalized, what’s to prevent more from coming in—a border and immigration system “enforced” by THIS president, THESE judges, and THIS Congress?

What a joke, except anyone with any sense shouldn’t be laughing.

[marron]

Acknowledging the need for some legalization process for the 12 million illegal immigrants already here

Is it 12 million? That sounds like a low-ball number.

Under Paul's plan, legalization wouldn't even be considered by Congress until the border was secured.

Most plans offer amnesty and a promise to eventually, somehow, secure the border by technical means, meaning no fence. Later. Some day.

I still don't trust people who have proven themselves so untrustworthy on border security; until now, every time they promise more border security you find out they are just doing another shuffle.

I don't know what is so hard about this: Secure the border. Enforce the law. Let the chips fall.

Over time, the problem resolves itself if you do that. And the problem becomes much more manageable once you've closed off the spigot. And over time people find ways to adjust, they either go home, or they find some way to legalize themselves. You can't talk about amnesty when you have 20 million people here and another million a year coming. Stop the inflow, apply the law, and then you can pick out the difficult cases that require special handling. But don't talk to me about exceptions when your agenda is an open border.

[RKBA Democrat]

This is just a feel good measure. The illegals aren’t coming here for the pretty sunsets, they’re here for jobs and the bennies. Cut that off and you remove most of the incentive and many will self deport.

There are some here who are here because of the godawful political and crime situation down south. And I’m not at all keen on deportations of those who are here because being in our slums beats the hell out of being dead in Mexico.

But there is a solution to that as well. And ironically, eric holder provided it. Its about time we saw the wisdom of sending lots of guns down to Mexico. Not for their corrupt government, but for the citizenry.

[Windflier]

Lock the barn after the horse has been stolen. Brilliant thinking, Rand.

[Carry_Okie]

Acknowledging the need for some legalization process for the 12 million illegal immigrants already here,

There is an easy way to get them to self-deport, one that has a long-standing record of success in American history. If bounties were capable of eradicating passenger pigeons, they can get rid of illegals too. The key to protecting the civil liberties of Latinos is to make sure there are heavy penalties for false arrest.

[SoConPubbie]

Here are the links, from this year, where Rand Paul clearly lays out his own Amnesty plan for 2 million illegals per year, based on a "Certification" from a Pro-Amnesty congress that the border is "secure". No Fence, No E-Verify, No punishments for ID Fraud, and all the other misdemeanors and felonies committed by the Undocumented Democrats he wants to pardon.

Sen. Rand Paul: Trust but verify on immigration reform (Feburary 8th, 2013)

Rand Paul’s “Undocumented Citizens” Path to Legality (and Citizenship) (March 20, 2013)

Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform (March 19, 2013 Article)

Rand Paul's presence-and-jobs amnesty -- WITHOUT E-Verify


No, America Does Not Have “De Facto Amnesty”

GOP's Rand Paul, Dems' Luis Gutierrez in step on immigration reform

Rand Paul: Pathway To Citizenship Is Needed, E-Verify Is Not

Rand Paul On Illegals: Trust But Verify

Steve Deace – Et Tu, Rand Paul?

Paul: Republican Party in Need of Facelift

[moonshinner_09]

SECURE THE BORDER FIRST..that might take a couple life times to reach that goal.They have had over 28 years from 1986 to 2014 to secure the border and 28 years later they are still trying to secure the borders.

[ObamahatesPACoal]

It shouldn’t be a bipartisan panel.

The Legislature of Arizona, New Mexico, California and Texas should be unanimous.

No one should care if the legislature in Arizona refuses to declare the border secure even if it is dominated by GOP.

Jerry Brown, Martinez, Rick Perry and Bill Richardson cant be trusted to declare whether the border is safe.

Maybe a better idea. Get a ballot measure in each border state. Let constituents in border states decide if the border is secure and whether they want an onslaught of illegals.

Rand Paul doesn’t mention the Muslim visa overstayers that he must know about because he filibustered over Disabled Muzzies on welfare trying to blow up Kentucky.

[dalereed]

crucify employers who hire illegals with huge fines and prison and the illegals will all be gone in 6 months!

[TBP]

Secure the borders first.