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Leaked Recordings Lay Bare E.U. and U.S. Divisions in Goals for Ukraine
The New York Times ^ | Alison Smale

Posted on 02/08/2014 12:41:02 PM PST by Monterrosa-24

...Illustrating how testy relations with Washington have become, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, earlier the target of American monitoring of her cellphone, issued an unusually sharp statement saying that Ms. Nuland’s remarks were “completely unacceptable.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; arseniyyatseniuk; europeanunion; geoffreypyatt; germany; klitschko; nato; nuland; olehtyahnybok; russia; ukraine; unitedkingdom; victorianuland; vitalyklitschko
Of course the New York Times headline attempts to shift the story from a scandal to just an illustration of Euro-American rivalry. But this is indeed a huge scandal within the workings of the incompetent Obama Administration. We have our top-level "diplomats" talking in the tone of high school sophomores while flippantly deciding who needs to be in top positions of the Ukrainian government.

The popular Ukrainian world heavyweight boxing champion/political activist Wladimir Klitschko is insulted and dismissed. Then our "diplomats" dismiss the EU with adolescent profanity.

1 posted on 02/08/2014 12:41:02 PM PST by Monterrosa-24
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To: Monterrosa-24

Given a choice between the U.N. or the EU, I’d definitely stick with the EU. The U.N. is a circus made up of a bunch of freaky America haters. Kind of like Washington D.C.


2 posted on 02/08/2014 1:05:10 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

At the very least, Nuland and the rest need remedial courses in diplomacy 101, including the given that phone conversations are not “private”...


3 posted on 02/08/2014 1:05:15 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Haynes won’t call himself a member of the tea party, but says he shares many of the same values they do.

I do not think most Obama foreign policy appointees from Kerry on down bring intensity to their work. Of course considering their Leftist outlook it is probably good that they do not work harder.


4 posted on 02/08/2014 1:07:44 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
KievProtests2014Ukraine photo kyiv-protestsyy_zpse94ab15c.jpg I do not like the EU or the UN but you're right...the UN is more dependably short-sighted and Leftist. The protestors want to move closer to the EU to help insure it does not get sucked back into the Russian monolith.
5 posted on 02/08/2014 1:10:38 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
The US is approaching the pinnacle of DemoRat diplomacy.

The strategy is to get the opposition to laugh themselves to death.

6 posted on 02/08/2014 1:13:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

We’re best off with them just filling the positions and doing nothing, since they obviously have no idea what they are supposed to be doing-they even screw up a simple phone call.


7 posted on 02/08/2014 1:16:45 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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“...The strategy is to get the opposition to laugh themselves to death...”

I guess that’s it. Rush always wonders what it takes to get fired from the Obama Administration and now Nuland is another example of a nitwit who is likely to keep right on the comedic trail.


8 posted on 02/08/2014 1:17:15 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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Of course Rush is more accurate, his analysis is always above excellent.

Truthfully, DemoRat diplomacy simply makes no sense whatsoever, and "nonexistent" seems to be the proper descriptor.

9 posted on 02/08/2014 1:25:48 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Obama better not piss off the Germans. Imagine if they demand all their gold back, all at once. Wait a minute...


10 posted on 02/08/2014 1:30:05 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Protests2014_Kiev_Ukraine photo kiev-protests_zps4cb08aaf.jpg Yes, and furthermore you have a great tagline.
11 posted on 02/08/2014 1:33:16 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

This is the sort of leadership you have at the state department: http://news.yahoo.com/video/john-mccains-questions-george-tsunis-210205159.html

Need one say more?


12 posted on 02/08/2014 1:33:54 PM PST by Red6
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“...the sort of leadership you have at the state department...”

Your link is great...it is painful to listen to Ms. Bradley Bell as well as Tsunis. I can’t believe McCain said “great answer” to her ramblings filled with “umm” and platitudes.


13 posted on 02/08/2014 1:41:57 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Watch the last 12 seconds.

I think McCain was being entirely sarcastic with his statement.


14 posted on 02/08/2014 1:52:10 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
 photo wladimir-klitschko_zps316d19ed.jpg Okay, but McCain is such a "reach across the aisle" sorta guy that it is tough to know he was being sarcastic. As for Victoria Nuland, she should learn that Klitschko does not appreciate being insulted.
15 posted on 02/08/2014 2:11:55 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Now Ukrainians have to fight Putin, corrupt government and Obamaoists.
Time to wake up and joining Ukies in fight for freedom and against commie oppression!
Go Klitchko! Go Sarah!!


16 posted on 02/08/2014 4:53:46 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Vladimir Klitschko easily defeats Mormeckl photo Wladimir-Klitschko-Jean-Marc-Mormeck_2727937_zps2b3e4d15.jpg When the Ukrainians need to take to the streets they do it. I'm afraid we're "suffering from the spiritual impotence that comes from a live of ease" as Solzhenitsyn said. But the time will come when we need to DO IT...as Jerry Rubin said.
17 posted on 02/08/2014 5:20:56 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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