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‘Six Californias’ plan doable, plan says; Could be on November ballot
The Washington Times ^ | February 4, 2014 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 02/05/2014 4:17:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Splitting California into six states would be complicated and time-consuming but not impossible, according to a state analysis.

Tim Draper, the multimillionaire Silicon Valley venture capitalist behind the proposal, said he was encouraged by the California legislative analyst’s report, declaring that dividing the nation’s largest state is “clearly legal and doable.”

“It is obvious that we need a breath of fresh air in California government, and creating six new states allows the refresh we need,” Mr. Draper said in an email after the study was made public over the weekend. “California, as it is, is ungovernable. We need our state governments to be local to us.”

The legislative analyst’s report on the proposed Six Californias amendment shows two of the states becoming richer and four becoming poorer. The smallest and poorest would be the northernmost state of Jefferson.

That doesn’t bother Mark Baird, a spokesman for the Jefferson Declaration Committee, who said the short-term economic hit would be far preferable to the state’s slide into a morass of ever-greater debt, taxes and regulation....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; sixcalifornias
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1 posted on 02/05/2014 4:17:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This would change the complexion of the Electoral College and I have not seen a map but which party would gain the most from this division?
Freegards
LEX


2 posted on 02/05/2014 4:21:48 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That would give Dems 10 MORE SENATORS!!


3 posted on 02/05/2014 4:25:09 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah....like I want California to be Gerrymandered into 6 more Democrat states with 12 new Democrat Senators....


4 posted on 02/05/2014 4:26:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

If LA & SF could be walled off/eliminated from US, it would be a good thing.

h/t Martha Stewart


5 posted on 02/05/2014 4:30:18 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Ann Archy

Yep, the CA ComDems see the handwriting on the wall and want to pack the Senate to try and maintain control. They know the consequences of loosing the Senate. The whole House of Cards and Lies will fall apart.


6 posted on 02/05/2014 4:30:42 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Ann Archy

Not sure this would give the Dems 10 more Senators. I don’t know much about the geographic breakdown of California politics, but I’m fairly certain the proposed states of Jefferson and Central California would be solidly Republican.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 4:33:47 AM PST by Thane_Banquo (III%)
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To: Ann Archy

Just as the UN is loaded with little communist despots, all voting the party line....


8 posted on 02/05/2014 4:35:19 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 more Lib Senators???????


9 posted on 02/05/2014 4:41:09 AM PST by G Larry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So California would have 12 Senators instead of just 2???

No Thanks --

10 posted on 02/05/2014 4:41:50 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesn't matter. Such things have to be approved by Congress, which will NEVER agree to give California that much more clout.

Article 4, Section 3:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

11 posted on 02/05/2014 4:45:14 AM PST by Doug Loss
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“It is obvious that we need a breath of fresh air in California government, and creating six new states allows the refresh we need,” Mr. Draper said in an email after the study was made public over the weekend. “California, as it is, is ungovernable. We need our state governments to be local to us.”

Draper thinks the issue of being "ungovernable" can be solved by yet more government. This is similar to thinking that the solution to getting sick from food at a restaurant is to order more courses.

12 posted on 02/05/2014 4:50:35 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: newfreep

Who knows? Curt Russell’s “Escape from LA” may become reality one day soon.


13 posted on 02/05/2014 4:53:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about if we just give it back to Mexico instead? We could tap into the oil reserves there then too....


14 posted on 02/05/2014 4:54:07 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

O.K. with me as long as we combine NY, NH, CT, ME, RI, VT, PA, MD, MA into one state (call it Communetticut) and give it two senators.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 4:57:52 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Ann Archy

No. The ‘Rats have a complete hold on the Senate in CA because the rest of the state can’t overcome LA and SF. Look at a map of the current Congressional delegation. Presuming the state-wide races in the new states followed the bulk of the congressional races in the same areas, Jefferson, Central CA, and South CA would most likely elect GOP senators, Silicon Valley and Western CA would elect ‘Rats, and Northern CA would probably lean to the ‘Rats but would be competitive.
The plan would actually improve the partisan composition of the Senate.

Comparing the county maps from the 2004 Presidential election give the same picture, though Obama did better in 2008 and 2012 and would have lost Jefferson, and maybe Central CA, and carried the other four. Still, with a little work, for the future, it would also shift the electoral college to the right.


16 posted on 02/05/2014 5:03:06 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Without LA and SF, the rest of the state would be fairly conservative (unless things have changed that much since I left).

I lived in the Sacramento area. That area turned out the largest number of Bush supporters in the country during the Gore tantrum back in 2000.

I’d like to see CA split off. The people living in the conservative areas should not have their livelihoods destroyed by the rich liberals in LA and the SF Bay Area.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:17 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: G Larry

No. See my post #16.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:22 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Uncle Chip

See my post #16.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:48 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Ben Hecks

You can leave NH out of that thank you very much.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 5:05:55 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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