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EPA's Wood-Burning Stove Ban Has Chilling Consequences For Many Rural People
Forbes ^ | 1-29-14 | Larry Bell,

Posted on 02/03/2014 4:33:29 PM PST by dynachrome

The impacts of EPA’s ruling will affect many families. According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2011 survey statistics, 2.4 million American housing units (12 percent of all homes) burned wood as their primary heating fuel, compared with 7 percent that depended upon fuel oil.

Local governments in some states have gone even further than EPA, not only banning the sale of noncompliant stoves, but even their use as fireplaces. As a result, owners face fines for infractions. Puget Sound, Washington is one such location. Montréal, Canada proposes to eliminate all fireplaces within its city limits.

Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPA’s new regulations didn’t go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agenda21; epa; greentyranny; nannystate; particulates; sueandsettle; thuggery; woodstoves
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To: M Kehoe

They won’t confiscate it. They will fine you if you are caught burning on ‘no burn days’ and will make it illegal to sell the home with the non-compliant stove in it. That is the way they have done it in California.

http://www.valleyair.org/burnprograms/selling%20home%20wb%20device.pdf


221 posted on 02/04/2014 8:19:24 AM PST by sheana
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To: palmer

how will you service yours when it breaks?

so much for not banning existing stoves


222 posted on 02/04/2014 8:28:12 AM PST by Abundy
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To: dynachrome

This ticks the living hell out of me.


223 posted on 02/04/2014 8:58:34 AM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: MagnoliaB
Nice!

We still have two to three months of winter left (I have seen blizzards in May and snow in June).

224 posted on 02/04/2014 9:36:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: dynachrome

” Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states.”

Good. They can suck on the policies they claim to love so much.


225 posted on 02/04/2014 9:37:13 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: MagnoliaB

In “The Federal Register”, which is online.


226 posted on 02/04/2014 9:41:07 AM PST by DBrow
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To: palmer
Fireplaces are not covered, only wood stoves

I thought that fireplaces are less fuel efficient than wood stoves are.

227 posted on 02/04/2014 9:42:46 AM PST by grania
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To: MagnoliaB

http://www.epa.gov/region1/ge/publiceventsandmeetings.html

Here is an example from epa’s website, I did a Bing search.


228 posted on 02/04/2014 9:43:19 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
They have comment periods that anyone, even you and I, can input to. In addition they’ll have face-to-face public meetings all over the USA and you can go, ask for clarifications, and express your concerns, while looking them in the eye.

I really wish I could say that I have ever been to such a meeting where it served any purpose other than to permit the Government to say they took comments from X number of people at the meeting before they do whatever it was the people who showed up were overwhelmingly against, but I can't.

It only legitimizes their crap.

That isn't saying don't show up, by all means, do, and take the kids and grandchildren. Let them see and understand and get riled. One kid saying "That's not fair!" or "Grandpa, that's wrong!" can make them squirm, and perhaps will someday have some effect.

And teach your kids to shoot, too. They will likely need to know how someday.

229 posted on 02/04/2014 9:44:17 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: defconw

And the useful idiots quickly jump on the band wagon and clap and bark like the seals they are....


230 posted on 02/04/2014 9:47:46 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

This goes back a ways, but back when they were considering lead regulations, this group consistently had people at the meetings making comments about lead paint on bridges. At one meeting, someone stood up and claimed that lead paint on the backs of mirrors was OK because babies were unlikely to chew on mirrors.

And when the final rule came out, it was OK to paint bridges with lead paint and the backs of mirrors were exempt.


231 posted on 02/04/2014 9:50:36 AM PST by DBrow
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To: MagnoliaB

http://www.epa.gov/ncea/iris/publicmeeting/


232 posted on 02/04/2014 9:52:59 AM PST by DBrow
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To: B4Ranch

“They aren’t on duty 24 hours each and every day.”

True, but as we saw around here with the smoking ban, there will be plenty of busy bodies more than willing to report on their neighbors. Fascists have no shame when given an opportunity to attack their opponents.


233 posted on 02/04/2014 9:54:15 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Have you shopped for a new washer in the last couple of years? The EPA regs have brought us a product that is terrible!


234 posted on 02/04/2014 10:01:37 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: palmer

“The answer is that the politicans, even the stupid democrats and rinos, will shut this regulation down if there are enough complaints.”

Just like they are doing with Oabamacare....oh wait...


235 posted on 02/04/2014 10:02:42 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Abundy

Mine has stainless steel tubes (a soft metal) and ceramic fiber baffles. Yes, I am probably screwed.


236 posted on 02/04/2014 10:03:42 AM PST by palmer (don't feed the bears)
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To: grania
I thought that fireplaces are less fuel efficient than wood stoves are.

Yes, which is why they aren't regulating those. Fireplaces can't be used to keep warm (realistically) so the EPA doesn't care about them.

237 posted on 02/04/2014 10:05:26 AM PST by palmer (don't feed the bears)
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To: palmer

you aren’t screwed but can you say that for everyone else

i find your cavalier attitude to be somewhat representative of a typical liberal...

as a resident of the state of maryland, whose AG is suing the EPA because it doesn’t go far enough, I recognize this threat for what it is

you might want to consider the effect on others, not just yourself


238 posted on 02/04/2014 10:07:55 AM PST by Abundy
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To: CSM
We had bought a new Whirlpool Duet set (front loader). Hated it. The washer ground up clothing against the door seal, always plugged up with some small article of clothing (grandkids' socks)--which couldn't be fixed without draining the washer through the doohickey placed next to the floor (we finally just left the lower panel off rather than replace and remove it).

Then the 'brain' went, first in the washer, then in the dryer. The repairman couldn't repair it. Just expensive junk, imho.

We found a set with a top loader, no computer, all knobs and dials and electrical timers. The clothes get cleaner and the washer doesn't pack off with small socks.

Never again.

239 posted on 02/04/2014 10:18:54 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

How many times does your spouse have to cheat on you before you realize they are a serial adulterer?

To those that say the EPA is only doing blah blah blah, sure. They would never encroach any further. How much evil does the Federal Govt have to do before someone realizes that EVERYTHING coming out of Washington DC today is cancer.


240 posted on 02/04/2014 10:20:48 AM PST by roofgoat
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