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Military recruiters challenged to fill smaller, specialized force
Stars & Stripes ^ | February 2, 2014 | Pamela Wood

Posted on 02/03/2014 7:10:20 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Chief Petty Officer Tori Novo says she finds herself saying "no" to young people who want to ship out to sea with the Navy more often than she used to.

A recruiter for seven years, Novo says she has seen the standards for enlisting in the Navy become tougher. And that means more young people who desperately want to join the Navy -- for a career with a steady paycheck, for educational opportunities, for a chance to serve their country -- don't make the cut.

Many of those applicants -- the ones "who would beg on their hands and knees to get in" -- might make excellent sailors, Novo says. But there's no room for them in today's smaller, more selective military.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armedforces; military; recruiter
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To: 7thson
Just how exactly is she saying no to people who want to serve?

I'd say something along the lines of "Sorry, kid, but we can't use you. So please take your high school dropping, dope smoking, tattooed butt somewhere else."

21 posted on 02/03/2014 9:53:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: JoeFromSidney
...but the kind of people we want, there's no room for.

Why do they want high school dropouts, people with criminal records, drug users, full arm tattoos, or people who can't pass the aptitude tests?

22 posted on 02/03/2014 9:56:13 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: 2banana
The sad part is that the kids that really need the military will now not have the chance...

I thought we had a military to kill people and break things not to be a social service program for "disadvantaged youts".

23 posted on 02/03/2014 11:45:18 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: 2banana

Another thing that will keep a kid/person out of the military: Tattoos.

I took a 21 year old kid to a Navy recruiter. He asked about tattoos because that would be a disqualifier.
I started reading up on that and found that the military figured out that some people coming in with tats were gang members. They were continuing their gang activity while on active duty, then after getting out, taking their combat training back to the hood.


24 posted on 02/03/2014 11:52:19 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Little Bill

Johnson’s 100,000 was followed by a congressional mandate called project 200,000. There were some real lowlifes among those who were just mentally below par. I went to a joint service school on an army base that had their quartermaster training to include the postal guys. The had classes in that school on how to properly wrap packages and some of them did not get it. Too many of them became cooks which was a real morale killer. When the Corps rotated us onto mess duty, many of us were better cooks than the assigned cooks. I had been a restaurant cook for 4 years so for me it was a mind numbing experience to have to watch those guys “cook” and take orders from them.


25 posted on 02/03/2014 11:55:59 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: JoeFromSidney; 2banana

Plenty of room for queers and for women in the combat arms, but the kind of people we want, there’s no room for
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Complete ‘turn around’ of situations...

back in ‘our day’ sure way out was ‘show homosexual tendencies’.

Before long

If you are in danger of not being accepted, show homosexual tendencies to get a boost and better your chances......

Progress.....yea right....


26 posted on 02/03/2014 12:04:16 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Every wonder why when they refer to People of Color it doesn't include Asians??)
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To: xrmusn

"No we're not homosexuals, but we're willing to learn."

27 posted on 02/03/2014 12:07:41 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“No we’re not homosexuals, but we’re willing to learn.”
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Yeah, that’s right. That is what I am talking about. <: <:


28 posted on 02/03/2014 12:13:20 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Every wonder why when they refer to People of Color it doesn't include Asians??)
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To: RJS1950
I was a squad leader in a rifle platoon they were a detriment to the service, the Army had a philosophy of “If they are to stupid to do any thing else send them to the Grunts.”

One of the lessons that the Germans learned was send a good proportion of the smart guys to the Combat Arms and you will get good performance.

29 posted on 02/03/2014 12:16:03 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Texas resident

I know someone who served in the Army who had a couple tattoos on his arm before joining. He was told that some tattoos were allowed but could not be visible while wearing a uniform. He had also had a mild run in with the law. He served in Iraq and was injured by an IED, completed his service honorably and is a good husband and father to our daughter and grandchildren.


30 posted on 02/03/2014 12:27:49 PM PST by kalee
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I thought we had a military to kill people and break things not to be a social service program for "disadvantaged youts".

It is. Maybe 1 out of 100 ever gets put into harms way. Maybe 10% of those actually do any fighting.

And PS - some of the best Rangers, SEALs and Green Berets I have served with would have been in jail or dead if not for the military. The military took a chance and it paid off.

31 posted on 02/03/2014 3:43:22 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
It is. Maybe 1 out of 100 ever gets put into harms way. Maybe 10% of those actually do any fighting.

I would dispute your numbers but let's put that aside. Do you want your tank being serviced by an illiterate punk?

Every job you have in the military has the potential of getting people killed if you do it wrong.

A company clerk orders the wrong supplies and suddenly you discover the wonderful versatility of rocks. You can throw them at the enemy, boil them for soup or bang your wounded on the head with them as a painkiller.

32 posted on 02/03/2014 5:06:34 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: RJS1950

“I went through infantry training with some of them in 1970 and I was stationed with some of them. Most were nice enough and tried, but could barely walk and talk at the same time. Most did not end up in combat arms because they could not make it through the training and nobody wanted to have their lives dependent on someone with the intellect of a stump.”

The military aptitude testing then for infantry put very heavy weight on IQ. (One part of the tests was equivalent to IQ)

I was a personal management specialist back then.


33 posted on 02/03/2014 5:24:05 PM PST by truth_seeker (Nissan)
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To: Timber Rattler

In this and the huge numbers that will be ejected from the military in the coming are more seeds of a failing economy.

It is going to happen, get ready for it.


34 posted on 02/03/2014 6:38:20 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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