Posted on 02/03/2014 6:17:36 AM PST by fishtank
Remembering The Genesis Flood
by John C. Whitcomb
December 8, 2010
“A word fitly spoken” has incredible power (Proverbs 25:11). Burdened by the rampant disregard for God’s Word, two young men collaborated to write a book called simply The Genesis Flood. Fifty years later their shout still reverberates round the world. In February 1961 a small publisher in New Jersey—Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company—brought into this world a 518-page, somewhat ponderous, volume entitled The Genesis Food: The Biblical Record and Its Scientific Implications. The co-authors were a little-known theologian (myself) and a hydraulic engineer, Henry M. Morris. Little did we know what the future held for our new work. Conception The book was conceived in September 1953 at Grace Theological Seminary, Winona Lake, Indiana, where I had already been teaching for two years. At the time I accepted the gap theory of Genesis 1:1–2, which was very popular in Christian circles and was the view held by most of the seminary faculty. That changed when Dr. Henry Morris was invited to present a paper on “Biblical Evidence for a Recent Creation and Universal Deluge” to the American Scientific Affiliation, which met on campus. I was profoundly impressed with his paper. Later, I wrote him a letter explaining its influence on me: “I feel that your conclusions are scripturally valid, and therefore must be sustained by a fair examination of geologic evidence in time to come. My only regret is that so few trained Christian men of science are willing to let God’s Word have the final say on these questions . . . . I have adopted your views . . . and am presenting them to my class as preferable alternatives to the Gap Theory and the Day-Age Theory.”
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Humans have an amazing capacity for it.
Or maybe more likely a storm of comets and other debris that originated from the fountains of the great deep inside the Earth. So massive it even broke open the atmosphere surrounding the Earth [see Genesis 7:11].
Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html
Dr. Brown was inspired to formulate his hydroplate theory by Whitcomb and Morris as well as the Bible.
So then you are comfortable with the idea that the Bible lies about creation and the worldwide flood?
The comet-induced flood was “the fountains of the deep.”
We humans evolved in the abyss that is now covered by more than two miles of water. We were flushed out and are now occupying lands that, prior to the comet, were nearly unoccupied (mostly too cold).
Here’s an interesting perspective that you might consider: humans are an invasive species adapting to this new environment.
Another consequence: it is almost certain that Atlantis existed.
The Bible doesn’t lie. But God uses stories and ideas that our limited minds can handle to teach us spiritual truths.
The Noah story is the vessel, or the cup that brings the spiritual water for us to drink. Don’t get so wrapped up in the cup that you miss the water.
Prayers.
I never knew for sure if my dad had reconciled with his Creator through repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Read my FR homepage, it will help eliminate some of your assumptions about me. But it will probably bolster other wrong assumptions too! :’)
Your viewpoint appears to differ from mine if you think millions and billions of years elapsed time is true. God gave us dominion over all other earthly creatures after
the creation week.
101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth
Starlight and Time by Russell Humpheys
The key to the starlight and age of the universe is ‘gravitational time dilation’.
I'll stay out of this argument. I'll simply mention that I spent two semesters as a visiting professor at an engineering school in Istanbul. The very essence of science and engineering is that there are laws of nature that we can discover and use. However, the very essence of Islam is that there are no laws of nature. Everything happens because "Allah wills it." If you bring fire to a piece of paper, the fire doesn't cause the paper to burn. The paper burns because it is the will of Allah.
Muslims believe that Allah recreates the entire universe at every instant, and literally, what was a rock at one instant can be recreated as a tree.
How, then, can Muslims be scientists and engineers? I never did figure that one out.
I read an interesting book a while back - very dry, but in essence it was about why the Western culture was able to advance science (because of the assumptions of Christianity) and why the East and Islam were not able to.
In Islam, it is blasphemy to expect consistency of natural laws, because that is considered “chaining Allah”.
The problem in the East was with the ancestor worship, sort of taking the fifth commandment to a twisted extreme. They were culturally restricted from experimenting beyond what their ancestors accomplished until they were able to flawlessly replicate what the ancestors did.
Ummm, MrB supports the post.
That’s what the whole “/sarc” phrase was supposed to indicate.
/notsarc
“How, then, can Muslims be scientists and engineers?”
Simple. They can do that because it the will of Allah to get rid of infidels.
Unless, of course, you need them to work to pay more taxes .....
Hey! Now THAT’s an awesome idea!!!
I wonder if anyone’s ever thought of that MORE TAX idea before???!!???
/sarc
“Simple. They can do that because it the will of Allah to get rid of infidels —— by Muslims using sci and engineering.”
That’s tough. I was particularly close to an uncle who died a few years ago. Though he professed his faith in Christ, I fear he was never saved. I won’t know for sure until eternity. What I do know is our Lord is holy and just. He will do what is right.
“...our Lord is holy and just”...
Amen,brother.
And His Word stands forever.
Now you’ve gone and ruined all my fun...
My testimony is at odds with your statement that this book and the works of Dr. Henry Morris did damage to the cause of Christ. I was raised in a liberal mainline denomination and grew up reading the evolutionary Time-Life encyclopedia set cover to cover. My faith was marginal due in part to the apparent discrepancies between “science” and the Bible. Consequently, I lived a marginally Christian life and wandered far.
It wasn't until I experienced a year of intense discipleship that included reading Dr. Morris’ writings, that I woke up and realized that true science (discovering God's works) and true faith (discovering God's Word) are perfectly synchronized. For me, the cause of Christ was realized as I now walk as a devoted follower of Jesus.
And really, isnt that the problem - too many marginal believers or pseudo-believers not living fully for Christ, sharing truth and loving the folks that are put into their lives?
- a fellow engineer
I see you are a student of the word AND the manuscripts!
This Morris guy, who also wrote the "Defenders Bible", thinks Noah took dinosaurs aboard the ark. Not big ones he says, but "little baby dinosaurs.":) That is how little known that there was a first earth age and how people make foolish statements (sottish) by not recognizing that fact.
I was once a thoroughgoing evolutionist back when I thought I was about the smartest guy on the planet. But not any more.
Evolution across species simply makes no sense. Neither does the Big Bang or the "billions and billions of years..." schtick. None of it is required and most of it is implausible looking at it using today's science.
But, put it all in the same pot with Man Made Global Warming and you have quite a stew. Unfortunately, it is thin gruel, bad tasting. One may as well go back to practicing medicine with leeches and lancets.
You could be writing my story right there as well, including the “fellow engineer” part.
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