Keep it to the place of worship.
‘Bout time!
Might as well demand that the state “get out of the burlary, theft, robbery, rape and murder businesses” as well.
That’s only fair - since it was conservatives who invited the state into marriage in the first place - in exchange for a tax break. Once that happened, it was inevitable that everybody who could count to two would demand equal access.
If you don’t care if your marriage is legal, then don’t comply with the law, it is that simple.
This would merely mean that there is no such thing as marriage, which is silly, all societies have to deal with marriage law, and always have.
As long as the federal government of the US equates two perverted homos as the same as a true husband-and-wife, whether via tax breaks or military housing... America, my own country, can just go burn in hell. That’s my bottom line. Not whether some individual state drops marriage.
Marriage is between a man, a woman and God.
Government gets involved so that they can collect on licenses. For the money. And for social experiments.
And that is that.
About Time.
Conservatives everywhere can do one better: get married in church but skip the license. Let caesar define marriage as between 3 men, 3 women and a mule named Bob. There is no reason to pay for caesar’s marriage license. It isn’t required and in the eyes of God, it makes zero difference.
Any tax people here?
What are the financial benefits and problems with marriage vs. cohabitation over the span of 50 years or so?
Wrong. Completely wrong.
The State benefits from healthy traditional marriages. Economically, socially and even financially; marriage is a win/win for the state.
Remove marriages from the government? Yeah. We did that in the 1960’s with LBJ’s Great Society leaving us with the Welfare State.
Its way past time to begin punishing welfare queens and rewarding Mom and Dad and the Family.
If the state gets out of marriage, and it’s left to places of worship, how would non religious people marry?
Been my position for a good many years.
You wanna win?
If you have the ability to change the rules of engagement while still able to achieve and control the outcome then why not.
If the government has the power to sanction and define then remove their ability.
Gays want to “Marry”? Let em but, only under the rubric and authority only feeble minded bureaucrats can conjur up.
You inveted fedgov into a religious institution that you claim to hold sacred for your 30 pieces of silver in the form of tax breaks and special probate treatment and now you boo hoo when fedgov attaches favors you don’t like. Yeah... go ahead and hate on me for having the temerity to point out the bleeding obvious. Being for big government has it’s consequences. This should be a teachable moment for you all, but instead you’re going to do the stupid thing and think that government power can be restrained by giving the government more power. Fools.
It will never go anywhere, in my opinion. The statists and homosexualists will never voluntarily give it up. To the statists it’s a way to create more broken people reliant on the state, thus serial civil divorce and remarriage and impossibilities like ‘gay marriage.’ The homosexualists need a way to punish and keep punishing those who they know will never accept ‘gay marriage.’
Freegards
I have said this for awhile. Marriage is a religious rite, not a civil right. Even if the state invalidated my marriage, Mr R and I would still be married - because our marriage is a covenant between us and God, not us and the State and no matter what the state says - that won’t change.
Skipping all that because I don't have time to re-type that entire post due to leaving for work in a few minutes, the reality is this: Churches perform Marriage ceremonies. That ceremony follows the Biblical definition of One Man, One Woman and is blessed by God.
States perform Civil Unions. They simply cannot be called "Marriage" ceremonies because the term Marriage has a specific, Biblical meaning.
If we are to change the argument to our favor, we need to do the following:
1. Take back the word MARRIAGE. This means do not allow the word to be corrupted by the radical left agenda.
2. Correct the term "gay marriage" to that which it is: a gay civil union.
3. Recognize the fact that it does not matter if the radical homosexualized left wing of the Democrat Party calls it "gay marriage." What matters is what WE call it: gay civil union's. This is critical to not allowing the radical homosexualized left wing to corrupt the language.
4. This one's important: Get the State out of the Marriage "business." The reality is the State's only real interest in Marriage is twofold: Taxation or collecting a fee for the act to be performed by a Priest/Pastor, etc.. and secondarily to create laws around what happens when a marriage dissolves (who gets the kids, the car, the house, etc.. how much child support is and any alimony payments.) The interest in the dissolution of the marriage by the state is more or less so the state doesn't incur the burden of supporting children that are the product of a dissolved marriage.
If we REALLY wanted to impact the State (Federal, State, Local) then we as Christians would REFUSE to "register" our marriages with the state and refuse to pay the marriage tax - the fee one pays for a marriage license.
That simply means we have the Religious ceremony only, and tell the State to shove it.
That's how we get the State out of the "marriage business" and take back our culture.
Crap, I"ve missed my train!