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Researchers Find No Significant Health Benefits From Vitamin D Supplements
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Posted on 01/26/2014 8:37:57 PM PST by chessplayer

Healthy people taking vitamin D supplements are unlikely to see any significant impact when it comes to preventing broken bones or cardiovascular conditions, claims new research appearing in the latest edition of The Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology.

According to the AFP news agency, the study authors reviewed more than 40 previous trials in order to determine whether or not use of these vitamin supplements achieved a benchmark of reducing the risk of heart attacks, strokes, cancer or bone fractures by at least 15 percent.

“Previous research had seen a strong link between vitamin D deficiency and poor health in these areas,” the news agency said. However, the new study “strengthens arguments that vitamin D deficiency is usually the result of ill health – not the cause of it,” and the authors report that “there is ‘little justification’ for doctors to prescribe vitamin D supplements as a preventive measure for these disorders.”


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To: House Atreides

I will hug snakes but I draw the line at licking rats.

[Rat Lick would be a good punk band name]

;D

Think I’ll stick with my caps, too, thanks.


101 posted on 01/27/2014 7:54:48 AM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: laplata
I’ll continue taking my 5000 iu of D 3.

Me too.

102 posted on 01/27/2014 7:55:05 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: B4Ranch

“The food today is cut two weeks before so that it can stand the torture of mechanical processing, then gassed to attain the best color and three days of cold storage during transportation before hitting the market shelves.”

That’s one reason why I started a container garden. That food has only been touched by me and has no chemical, etc., added to it - it’s just pure food.


103 posted on 01/27/2014 8:05:10 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: chessplayer

Stay well, chessplayer.


104 posted on 01/27/2014 8:28:56 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Marcella
My grandson was born there and lives there and was D deficient due to not enough sun shines there

It doesn't take a whole lot to do the job. The sunscreen usage keeps out what little might have gotten through. The weather in Britain has not changed. The usage of sunscreen and amount of outside time has.
105 posted on 01/27/2014 8:31:32 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“It doesn’t take a whole lot to do the job. The sunscreen usage keeps out what little might have gotten through. The weather in Britain has not changed. The usage of sunscreen and amount of outside time has.”

You are wrong. Sports doctors were all over grandson due to his arm breaking twice - grandson and his tennis buddies do not use sunscreen because there is not enough sun to bother with it. I have been there many times and stayed for weeks at various times of the year and no one uses sun screen, that would be ridiculous. Those children don’t get any D in milk because it is not put in it.

My son says the sun shines two days a year, that is summer, and when it does, he’s outside in the back yard soaking it up.

To get sun, my grandson was taken to Spain to soak up sun.

There is a reason why people there carry umbrellas every day - that is because it rains there almost every afternoon and I’ve been there and carried one, too.

I’ve been going there over 25 years and to see sun there is an exception rather than the rule.


106 posted on 01/27/2014 9:02:18 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

We don’t disagree on the weather. I was basing what I wrote about the usage of sunscreen on articles I have read, which must have been anecdotal or isolated.

The numbers of D deficiency have been going up, however. That could be explained by change in diet, as fish is rich in vitamin D, and consumption of fish is down in England.


107 posted on 01/27/2014 9:09:40 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Children in England get no D from milk as our children do and there is little sunshine and that is why they are D deficient. The doctors believe that, told my son that. Son said it is a problem with all children there and they have to take a fish oil product, which grandson takes now, along with going to Spain to get sun.

The reason I have stuck with this with you is because it was thoroughly investigated by my son and the sports doctors when his son's arm broke twice with greenstick fractures. He is on the list of professional young tennis players and the sports doctors were documenting this in an effort to help the grandson and the rest of their players.

It was the sports doctors who first set up his going to Spain and staying a while for sun with adult players in Spain. He has gone there several times for sun.

The best thing England could do is put Vitamin D in the milk for children like we do - instead they have to drink certain fish oil.

108 posted on 01/27/2014 10:33:44 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

The Vitamin D they put in milk in the U.S. usually IS fish oil.

Since England has NEVER put Vitamin D in milk, how is it that the rates of deficiency has gone UP, way up? Something must have changed.


109 posted on 01/27/2014 11:14:19 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“The Vitamin D they put in milk in the U.S. usually IS fish oil.”

No, it isn’t fish oil, see below:

“Vitamin D3 that is added to milk is derived from the solvent extraction of 7-ehydrocholesterol from the skins of cows or pigs or sheep lanolin. 7-Dehydrocholesterol is then dissolved in a solvent and exposed to ultraviolet light to create vitamin D3.”

If more children are having D deficiency in England, then maybe more children are being born or maybe the surveys have changed their method of survey and catching more numbers that way. Or, maybe the doctors are being listened to as they said nearly every child in England is deficient due to not enough sun and no D in milk. Their evaluation would be more accurate than a survey of some kind.

I believe we have exhausted the discussion of D in English children.


110 posted on 01/27/2014 11:36:04 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Not quite:

A number of brands, especially premium brands, use fish oil to add Vitamin D to milk. Here are three examples.

Fish oil in milk:

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/costco-c341100.html

http://organicvalley.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/335

http://www.stonyfield.com/products/milk-cream/omega-3-milk/whole-milk


111 posted on 01/27/2014 12:10:24 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: palmer
Tried every where. The really expensive one is Ambien CR 12.5mg. I have really bad insomnia and I have tried over 16 sleeping meds and that is the only one that will work at all. At that I still have to take Nortriptylen to stay asleep and 30 mg of Melatonin to help fall asleep. Always try to find the cheapest drug possible. Chronic insomnia is very wearing on me and anyone who has gone through it. Life changer for sure.
112 posted on 01/28/2014 2:41:07 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: silverleaf

Thanks for the advice. I have not been ill since shortly after I got diagnosed with MS. It is a side benefit, if there is a side benefit to MS.


113 posted on 01/28/2014 2:43:56 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: silverleaf

Is the curcumin a spice?


114 posted on 01/28/2014 2:45:49 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff
contains turmeric and capsules is easy way to consume it, for those who don't want to eat spicy food and have to taste turmeric everyday on what they eat

bioperine is I believe a fancy word for black pepper, the combo enhances the effect of the turmeric

115 posted on 01/28/2014 2:49:17 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: JSteff

try apricot brandy :-)

sure helps my insomnia!


116 posted on 01/28/2014 2:51:09 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Salamander
LOL. Freaky stuff for sure. My wife used to say “us mortal people” when talking about health issues. Once had a tool hook on a peg board slice all the way to the bone, no between the bones in my upper left arm.
my dad was amazed and said the MD at the base dispensery (Navy ER clinic) showed him the nerve, artery, and the bones it went right between. Only bleed a very small amount.
Healed perfectly, barely left a scar.
Always played in the canyons and woods by our house wand got pretty banged up and slashed up but recovered really fast from them all.
Salmander, when you watch movies about plagues and pandemics do you have a hard time empathizing? I don't even think of it as something serious unless I think about how others are viewing the movie.
Every time I go in for a physical, my blood work is really good. My wife was an RN and she always can not believe how good all that stuff is.
Especially since she says I eat terrible. I am a true carnivore and love my Chocolate chip cookies etc. She says she can not believe how good my blood work is cause I eat junk (says her).
I will stop here but take care and Freep mail me some other time and we can share stories of the immortals... hope I didn't just jinx myself saying all that. Take care, or go on ignoring everything as you see fit. :-)
117 posted on 01/28/2014 3:26:44 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff
Chronic insomnia is very wearing on me and anyone who has gone through it.

No doubt. The Medicare part D plans cover generic drugs for next to nothing. AFAIK, there are no exceptions, the generic drugs seem to be made on some island in the mediterranean so they can skirt post-patent protections (drug companies always try to extend their patents). The Nortriptylen seems to have a 1989 patent so should be theoretically expired, but like I said the drug companies find ways to extend for another 5 years beyond expiration.

The simple fact of the matter is that doctors are paid to push the patent stuff and, especially with brain-type meds, they are very hard to switch out once you are on it. The high dollar Ambien you mentioned has 13 approved generic versions according to wiki. Sure you may have tried one or two of those, but not in a double-blind study.

I would go further and say there is no way you will fall asleep if you know which medication you did or did not take. It is simple psychology. Also brain meds should mostly be used as a stopgap until a therapist can train you in the techniques you need. But that will cost big bucks especially since good therapists are rare.

118 posted on 01/28/2014 3:40:23 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: JSteff
Sorry I just read above you have MS. Obviously the MS meds will have side effects and those could exacerbate any attempts to treat insomnia. In particular the MS meds, like all chronic disease meds, have varying efficacy in individual patients on a day-to-day, week-to-week or even hour-to-hour basis. Essentially your body will metabolize the meds at varying rates that you have almost no control over. So you will vary from over to undermedicated (and sometimes just right).

The insomnia treatments will have the same problems except worse due to the MS and the MS med side effects. There is no way to know whether or how much to take at any one time. The key is to try to gain as much consistency in metabolism as possible. In the case of insomnia you will also need consistency in diet and a diurnal cycle.

That means changing the diet to match something based on diurnal cycle. I use "Fit for Life" but there are other valid alternatives. Basically the diet is to get you to eat the right foods for each time of day. Since it is early AM here I have finished a couple of apples.

Next you will need maximum sunshine and consider a full spectrum light if that is no possible. Then you will need mid day exercise (and no exercise in the evening). Next your sleeping arrangement has to have all light and electronics removed and as much sound dampening as possible. My BR is totally silent thanks to life in the country and good windows.

Finally, most importantly, you need to stop self-medicating. Get your wife to dispense the pills and put them in wrappers of some sort so you don't get to see them. She will have to use some protocol she invents, like 5 days with one type to allow for variations, followed by a placebo for a day or two, followed by another 5 days. She will have to be rigorous and take notes on your reactions, sleeping times, etc. You cannot treat a sleeping disorder yourself. It cannot be treated by ad hoc methods.

119 posted on 01/28/2014 4:04:55 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: JSteff

We should get together and create a race of Super Freepers.

;D

Seriously, thanks for the stories.

It’s good to know that maybe I’m not such a singular mutant, after all.

:)


120 posted on 01/28/2014 4:51:57 AM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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