Posted on 01/26/2014 8:37:57 PM PST by chessplayer
Healthy people taking vitamin D supplements are unlikely to see any significant impact when it comes to preventing broken bones or cardiovascular conditions, claims new research appearing in the latest edition of The Lancet Diabetes & Endocrinology.
According to the AFP news agency, the study authors reviewed more than 40 previous trials in order to determine whether or not use of these vitamin supplements achieved a benchmark of reducing the risk of heart attacks, strokes, cancer or bone fractures by at least 15 percent.
“Previous research had seen a strong link between vitamin D deficiency and poor health in these areas,” the news agency said. However, the new study “strengthens arguments that vitamin D deficiency is usually the result of ill health – not the cause of it,” and the authors report that “there is ‘little justification’ for doctors to prescribe vitamin D supplements as a preventive measure for these disorders.”
I will hug snakes but I draw the line at licking rats.
[Rat Lick would be a good punk band name]
;D
Think I’ll stick with my caps, too, thanks.
Me too.
“The food today is cut two weeks before so that it can stand the torture of mechanical processing, then gassed to attain the best color and three days of cold storage during transportation before hitting the market shelves.”
That’s one reason why I started a container garden. That food has only been touched by me and has no chemical, etc., added to it - it’s just pure food.
Stay well, chessplayer.
“It doesn’t take a whole lot to do the job. The sunscreen usage keeps out what little might have gotten through. The weather in Britain has not changed. The usage of sunscreen and amount of outside time has.”
You are wrong. Sports doctors were all over grandson due to his arm breaking twice - grandson and his tennis buddies do not use sunscreen because there is not enough sun to bother with it. I have been there many times and stayed for weeks at various times of the year and no one uses sun screen, that would be ridiculous. Those children don’t get any D in milk because it is not put in it.
My son says the sun shines two days a year, that is summer, and when it does, he’s outside in the back yard soaking it up.
To get sun, my grandson was taken to Spain to soak up sun.
There is a reason why people there carry umbrellas every day - that is because it rains there almost every afternoon and I’ve been there and carried one, too.
I’ve been going there over 25 years and to see sun there is an exception rather than the rule.
We don’t disagree on the weather. I was basing what I wrote about the usage of sunscreen on articles I have read, which must have been anecdotal or isolated.
The numbers of D deficiency have been going up, however. That could be explained by change in diet, as fish is rich in vitamin D, and consumption of fish is down in England.
The reason I have stuck with this with you is because it was thoroughly investigated by my son and the sports doctors when his son's arm broke twice with greenstick fractures. He is on the list of professional young tennis players and the sports doctors were documenting this in an effort to help the grandson and the rest of their players.
It was the sports doctors who first set up his going to Spain and staying a while for sun with adult players in Spain. He has gone there several times for sun.
The best thing England could do is put Vitamin D in the milk for children like we do - instead they have to drink certain fish oil.
The Vitamin D they put in milk in the U.S. usually IS fish oil.
Since England has NEVER put Vitamin D in milk, how is it that the rates of deficiency has gone UP, way up? Something must have changed.
“The Vitamin D they put in milk in the U.S. usually IS fish oil.”
No, it isn’t fish oil, see below:
“Vitamin D3 that is added to milk is derived from the solvent extraction of 7-ehydrocholesterol from the skins of cows or pigs or sheep lanolin. 7-Dehydrocholesterol is then dissolved in a solvent and exposed to ultraviolet light to create vitamin D3.”
If more children are having D deficiency in England, then maybe more children are being born or maybe the surveys have changed their method of survey and catching more numbers that way. Or, maybe the doctors are being listened to as they said nearly every child in England is deficient due to not enough sun and no D in milk. Their evaluation would be more accurate than a survey of some kind.
I believe we have exhausted the discussion of D in English children.
Not quite:
A number of brands, especially premium brands, use fish oil to add Vitamin D to milk. Here are three examples.
Fish oil in milk:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/costco-c341100.html
http://organicvalley.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/335
http://www.stonyfield.com/products/milk-cream/omega-3-milk/whole-milk
Thanks for the advice. I have not been ill since shortly after I got diagnosed with MS. It is a side benefit, if there is a side benefit to MS.
Is the curcumin a spice?
bioperine is I believe a fancy word for black pepper, the combo enhances the effect of the turmeric
try apricot brandy :-)
sure helps my insomnia!
No doubt. The Medicare part D plans cover generic drugs for next to nothing. AFAIK, there are no exceptions, the generic drugs seem to be made on some island in the mediterranean so they can skirt post-patent protections (drug companies always try to extend their patents). The Nortriptylen seems to have a 1989 patent so should be theoretically expired, but like I said the drug companies find ways to extend for another 5 years beyond expiration.
The simple fact of the matter is that doctors are paid to push the patent stuff and, especially with brain-type meds, they are very hard to switch out once you are on it. The high dollar Ambien you mentioned has 13 approved generic versions according to wiki. Sure you may have tried one or two of those, but not in a double-blind study.
I would go further and say there is no way you will fall asleep if you know which medication you did or did not take. It is simple psychology. Also brain meds should mostly be used as a stopgap until a therapist can train you in the techniques you need. But that will cost big bucks especially since good therapists are rare.
The insomnia treatments will have the same problems except worse due to the MS and the MS med side effects. There is no way to know whether or how much to take at any one time. The key is to try to gain as much consistency in metabolism as possible. In the case of insomnia you will also need consistency in diet and a diurnal cycle.
That means changing the diet to match something based on diurnal cycle. I use "Fit for Life" but there are other valid alternatives. Basically the diet is to get you to eat the right foods for each time of day. Since it is early AM here I have finished a couple of apples.
Next you will need maximum sunshine and consider a full spectrum light if that is no possible. Then you will need mid day exercise (and no exercise in the evening). Next your sleeping arrangement has to have all light and electronics removed and as much sound dampening as possible. My BR is totally silent thanks to life in the country and good windows.
Finally, most importantly, you need to stop self-medicating. Get your wife to dispense the pills and put them in wrappers of some sort so you don't get to see them. She will have to use some protocol she invents, like 5 days with one type to allow for variations, followed by a placebo for a day or two, followed by another 5 days. She will have to be rigorous and take notes on your reactions, sleeping times, etc. You cannot treat a sleeping disorder yourself. It cannot be treated by ad hoc methods.
We should get together and create a race of Super Freepers.
;D
Seriously, thanks for the stories.
It’s good to know that maybe I’m not such a singular mutant, after all.
:)
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