Chuck Norris smokes marijuana debate

WND.com ^ | January 24, 2014 | Chuck Norris

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Mr. Norris, with Washington and Colorado recently legalizing pot smoking and their football teams (Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos) being in the Super Bowl, some have asked whether there is going to be added marijuana use during this year’s Super Bowl. And President Barack Obama recently said that he doesn’t think marijuana is as dangerous as alcohol. What do you think, Chuck? Is it? – “Trying to Make Sense of Sensimilla” in Seattle

I understand the arguments for the legalization of marijuana: It can generate tax revenue. It can reduce illegal supply and demand. It can strip power from cartels and lessen crime across and at our borders. And it isn’t so dangerous as other illegal drugs or alcohol.

You’re right; President Obama even claimed one of those arguments when he recently told New Yorker Editor David Remnick, “As has been well-documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life.”

Obama explained, “(Smoking marijuana is) not something I encourage, and I’ve told my daughters I think it’s a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy.” But then he added, “I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol.”

With the president entering the cannabis conversation ring, debate has intensified around the nation. But what’s the truth in the alcohol-vs.-marijuana dispute?

This past week, CNN reported on some extensive studies and evidence surrounding the topic, especially in comparing use, addiction, withdrawal and the effects on using motorized vehicles.

[GeronL]

The real libertarian position is since there is nothing in the Constitution about “age of consent” that it is bogus law.

[Yardstick]

Says who?

[Yardstick]

About the only time conservatives sound dumb is when they talk about libertarians.

[ansel12]

Mary Ruwart is a major libertarian figure.

A rival called her out for her thoughts in a 1999 book called Short Answers to the Tough Questions. “Children who willingly participate in sexual acts have the right to make that decision as well, even if it’s distasteful to us personally,” Ruwart wrote. “When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.”

““Ruwart was the Libertarian Party of Texas’s nominee for U.S. Senate in 2000, where she faced incumbent Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison.”

Ruwart has served on the Libertarian National Committee, and was a keynote speaker at the 2004 Libertarian National Convention. In 2002, libertarians launched an unsuccessful lobbying campaign to get Dr. Ruwart appointed Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner.

[right way right]

Satanic.

[ansel12]

Ruwart has served on the Libertarian National Committee, and was a keynote speaker at the 2004 Libertarian National Convention. In 2002, libertarians launched an unsuccessful lobbying campaign to get Dr. Ruwart appointed Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner. Ruwart was the Libertarian Party of Texas’s nominee for U.S. Senate in 2000, where she faced incumbent Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison.

Ruwart wrote.
“When we outlaw child pornography, the prices paid for child performers rise, increasing the incentives for parents to use children against their will.”

That is pure libertarianism, no wonder they are allied with the left to destroy conservatism and our Christian culture in America.

What some on this thread don't know, is that the National Party has also shown an indication of where libertarians stand on child porn.

[uglybiker]

If Chuck Norris smoked pot.

The pot would get stoned.

[usconservative]

Again, I know of NO LIBERTARIANS that share that (disturbing..) point of view. Another person tried painting ALL Libertarians with the child porn/perv label, which frankly is stupid.

[Para-Ord.45]

Do they define what age is an adult? No they do not.

Ron Paul wrote a book , ‘The Revolution; A Manifesto’. In it did he not state the age of consent, and therefore adulthood, should be 12 years old?

Seems pretty clear to me Libertarians won`t define adulthood but Ron Paul gave us an insight.

[morphing libertarian]

Ditto

I
Some of the ignorance regarding libertarianism is astounding.

I have met a few hundred libertarians and attended dozens of meetings and never ran across this belief.

Let’s poll nambla and see haw many are dems and GOP and then generalize.

[38special]

That’s a stretch.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[ansel12]

LOL, no libertarian had told you they are for the government to stay out of child porn, so that means it never happened?

Thats cute. Actually libertarianism does pretty well among a lot of the people that are libertarian on things, for instance NAMBLA.

Do you really not think that a philosophy that calls for open everything from abortion to drugs, to borders, and homosexuals in the military etc., doesn’t tend to attract people who aren’t against those things, and in fact like them?

Read post 64, does it look like the libertarians turned against Mary Ruwart, or turned to her?

Here is a question that I would like to see you answer, although your post indicates and answer in advance.

Do you think that if a resolution was placed before the libertarians requesting that states enforce child porn laws, that the libertarians would jump on the chance to vote yes, or refuse to vote on it?

[Kansas58]

I am an insurance agent and I have SEEN Prescriptions for Thalidomide written for cancer patients, for dietary reasons

However, some of you are correct in stating that there are other cancer fighting qualities in Thalidomide as well.

“Unlabeled Uses

Graft versus host disease after bone marrow transplantation; refractory multiple myeloma; primary brain tumors; appetite stimulant for cachexia in advanced cancer; aphthous ulcers; prostate cancer (in combination with docetaxel).”

http://www.drugs.com/ppa/thalidomide.html

[Slings and Arrows]

I am an insurance agent and I have SEEN Prescriptions for Thalidomide written for cancer patients, for dietary reasons

I'm a pharmacy student, and whatever you may have seen, dietary reasons are not a recommended indication for thalidomide. My source is Clinical Pharmacology, the standard reference for drug properties in pharmacy. The labelled (i.e., FDA approved) indications for thalidomide are leprosy and multiple myeloma. Dietary reasons are not even a recognized off-label use. Drugs.com is wrong.

[morphing libertarian]

you are wrong. Libertarians distinguish between adults and children.

I notice you trolling this issue regularly and I hold my nose. Just wanted to make the one point today. Not wanting to hold on to the tar baby.

Have at it.

[FBD]

This is the immoral war on marijuana. An Arizona marine was shot by a SWAT team, over suspected marijuana involvement in his family. He was shot 60 times, with his wife and daughter, in the house. You want to talk about “ immorality”? Let's talk about the States ability to MURDER innocent people, and endanger entire neighborhoods with SWAT team shootings, over marijuana. Not a single stem or seed was found in Guerenas house, and his wife was awarded $3 million dollars. No one was fired or suspended from SWAT.

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http://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/raid-photo.png?w=529&h=223

http://zerogov.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/guerena_rally2.jpg

http://word.truthintheword.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/guerena01.jpg

[GeronL]

This is the immoral war on marijuana

Stopped reading right there. The poop was piled too high to see anything else.

[FBD]

“Stopped reading right there.”

-you also stopped *thinking*., right there. Sooner or later, the ridiculous federal war on marijuana will end on YOUR doorstep, as it did with this mayor, whose dogs were shot, and they almost shot a family member.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/QySuPfK8f7Q/hqdefault.jpg

[FBD]

Excellent post, particularly the Ayn Rand quote from Atlas Shrugged.