Posted on 01/25/2014 5:24:32 PM PST by Libloather
Pensioners with cancer are being written off as too old to treat, campaigners said yesterday.
They cited figures showing survival rates for British patients aged 75 and over are among the worst in Europe.
Young lung cancer sufferers are only 10 per cent more likely to die within five years than their continental counterparts.
But pensioners with the disease have 44 per cent less chance of survival.
The figure for stomach cancer at 45 per cent is even worse.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
stage 3 isn’t a given death sentence. especialy 3a. you over-generalize.
>> you over-generalize
You sure it’s me that’s over-generalizing?
Whats scary is...some Freepers are starting to believe in Unicon poop instead of financial reality...
“Wouldn't it be nice if they we “skittles””
“Government compassion.”
The moral question here is the easy part. Everybody should get treated, no matter what their age.
The question of who pays for it, is considerably more complex.
When governments do not have the money, who pays?
But if you have a private health insurance plan...oh, wait, we are doing away with those.
That’s gonna come in handy as 0DeathCare rolls out.
The best way to head off widespread government euthanasia here is family revenge. That is, to let the “angel of death” medical people know that unnatural death is murder, and if they murder, they will face the fate of murderers.
The trick is to find some way of connecting a family whose respected elder has been murdered, with an executioner with no known connection to them. This suggests an organization that is basically a “Revenge, Inc.”
The original “Murder, Inc.” subcontracted for organized crime mobs in the 1930s and 1940s, and may have killed some 400-1000 people before they were broken up. This shows how difficult it is to stop such an organization.
And because the primary purpose of “Revenge, Inc.” is not money, but to prevent “legal murder” by frightening the murderers into *not* murdering, if carried out with some intelligence, it would likely achieve its goal by just killing a dozen serial killer medical personnel.
Of course we want to help heal everyone, but some things aren’t going to be healed...we have to learn to know the difference. No one should be subjected to a government saying they can’t receive treatment, but neither should an Oncologist order Chemo and receive payment himself for continuing to treat someone who should be in Hospice, and who should spend the last few months of their life with family and friends saying a peaceful goodbye, even if that means on Morphine.
I saw this abuse firsthand and was appalled, and had the man not have had such great insurance, it would not have happened. This was years ago, and long before this Healthcare battle. Thanks.
What is ‘Skittles”? I do not understand that comment.
“The Soviet system and todays Russian system treat people with cancer, even the elderly.”
Oh, I agree, they had, and the Russians have, a pretty good health care system - but my point was, with the life expectancy as it was, they could afford to do that, with very few people actually getting “old”!
An idea that I though was very good in the Eastern Bloc, was the idea of an entire hospital dedicated to one single type of illness or type of surgery. Look at it this way, regardless of what the AMA thinks, some doctors are better than others. But if you do something a lot, eventually you will get fairly good at it.
“Who made the decision, your doctor or your government?”|
Neither, I do, with the Word.
Im glad you told that to her because she will be the first to be put in the back of the line or be told “Your just too old to live, you won’t be a productive member of society, you have nothing more to contribute.” What I Fear the most is NHS deciding who lives and who dies based on political leanings..you know that is what the left wants most, to decide your fate based on who you voted for..it would be a medical holocaust
“I saw this abuse firsthand and was appalled, and had the man not have had such great insurance, it would not have happened. This was years ago, and long before this Healthcare battle. Thanks.”
I saw this too, in another way, with another type of illness. The situation was absolutely hopeless, but they did “everything possible”... that was, until the Medicare money ran out. Then, it was immediately off to the nursing home/hospice.
Ezekiel Emanuel, the architect of Obamacare has proposed to similarly ration care to the elderly and the very young because they are of less value to society...very little different that the Nazis.
I'm not sure u get it when u have to questions someones “positive experience” with questions that don't apply...
Go back and read the statement...do u agree or disagree?
No one has *ever* died needlessly. Progressives are in the business of cheapening life, but it is not a successful business though they believe otherwise with all their might and intellect.
“When governments do not have the money, who pays?”
And THIS is the ugly question, isn’t it?
Here’s one: my 95-year old grandmother’s arm disintegrated from osteoporosis. There was nothing to “set” - it turned to dust, basically. The cheap fix would have been to cut the arm off - after all, it isn’t like she was going to do manual labor again, and plenty of people get around with one arm...but they replaced the bone with plastic, which surely was a lot more expensive. Was it worth it? About a year after calling her physical therapist “an agent of Satan”...she thought so.
I’m allergic to narcotics.
Would you dispatch NICE with a bullet?
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