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Live Feed Ukraine Protestors--Kiev
Ustream ^ | 1/24/14 | EuroMajdan

Posted on 01/24/2014 11:14:48 AM PST by Rebelbase

Looks like a scene from a medieval siege.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kiev; liveukraineriots; ukraine; ukraineriots
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To: Revolting cat!

Ukrainians can deal with the Eu far better than if Russia gains the ground here. Even if the EU is embracing Muslims, doesn’t mean Ukrainians would do so.....but they stand a far better chance of freedom with the EU than with Russia.


61 posted on 01/24/2014 2:53:04 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
I believe this may have been a statue of Stalin they brought down..


62 posted on 01/24/2014 2:55:47 PM PST by caww
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To: SpaceBar
I had the situation explained to me thusly: During the Soviet years, ethnic Ukrainians were replaced by ethnic Russians through disease and starvation brought about by Stalin. These ethnic Russians now constitute a large chunk of the Ukrainiand population and want allegience to Moscow, while the remaining ethnic Ukrainians want to look westward (The EU). That is the basis of the demonstrations.

yes, as you can see from the maps below the division of the country is essentially along ethnic lines. Russia took parts of Georgia by force a few years back. They are trying to take Georgia by other means. I think an apt comparison is to the different ways that Hitler took the Sudetenland and Austria.

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63 posted on 01/24/2014 2:56:32 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: caww

Exactly. Ukraine has excellent reasons to join the EU that we don’t have to approve of, and most, as I see, don’t try to understand. How about infrastructure investments? D’uh! Germans and French and the Swedes don’t like anything better than open up supermarkets, sell their products and build roads to deliver them. Winners all around. There are other benefits for the citizens of an underdeveloped EU member. And lots of pain for the small producers who will now have to obey EU regulations.


64 posted on 01/24/2014 3:00:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: caww
Food runners...

Pickle sandwiches?


65 posted on 01/24/2014 3:06:23 PM PST by caww
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To: SpaceBar

A little short Ukrainians whether from the east or the west of the country self identify as Ukrainians. This protest has moved from a trade agreement issue to a protest about the corruption of the Yanukovich government and personal freedom generally

Yanukovich may wind up being “Ceaucescued”


66 posted on 01/24/2014 3:09:18 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Revolting cat!

True...but Putin covets the Ukraine for his pipeline into Europe. The Russian Ukrainians mistakenly believe they will benefit from this not to mention being a part of their homeland Russia. The pipeline will likely happen anyway.....the EU will work with Putin and or any other Leader of the Ukraine to make that happen.


67 posted on 01/24/2014 3:12:17 PM PST by caww
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To: Jimmy Valentine

The trade agreement was Putins and Yanukovich’s , who is Putins man. The election was felt to be stolen in the first place. The “self_Identified” Ukrainians were opposed to Yanchovich right from the start.....

I doubt Yanchovich will last long at the rate this is playing out...but the threat is if the Gov. doesn’t get control of these demonstrations Ukraine will split.


68 posted on 01/24/2014 3:17:31 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Thank you for your well informed posts, it’s been rather frustrating...


69 posted on 01/24/2014 3:20:09 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: caww
Christian Orthodox Priests between Police and protesters in Kiev...


70 posted on 01/24/2014 3:22:22 PM PST by caww
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To: Revolting cat!

On FR the truth generally comes out RC.....

There are many Ukranians who do not themselves understand the political dynamics for what is happening either...all they need to know is they are loosing their freedom .

Although to be fair to Putin...politically he’s doing far better Internationally than Obama is. He’s playing chess..Obama thinks it’s a checkers game!


71 posted on 01/24/2014 3:26:03 PM PST by caww
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To: PAR35

Who told you Russians are Christians? quickly looking at Wiki - less than half identify themselves as Christians. I suspect (forgive me, my statistic) two thirds of that number are Christians on paper only and haven’t been to a church in years.

Second point relates to the Christian values, I guarantee that they are not compatible with yours. The head of the official church and the priests are unchanged from the USSR days. You remember those days when a “priest” had a KGB call sign and made regular reports? This current patriarch was known as “Mikhailov”. The church is nothing but a tool to implement Kremlin propaganda. They are hateful towards other nationalities and other Christian denominations. Protestants, Catholics etc. - they don’t differentiate - they’re all labelled as “schismatics” and are a competitive threat on what they see as their rightful flock.

Back to the civilization values, would you at least agree that Europe and US are part of the Western civilization, civilization which Russia has never really been a part of?


72 posted on 01/24/2014 3:31:30 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: caww

I think Turkey is next.


73 posted on 01/24/2014 3:33:01 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Revolting cat!

Looks like “Russia is at the gates of Europe again”....Putin has shown up...of course Obama hasn’t.


74 posted on 01/24/2014 3:55:27 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Thank-you for the outstanding photo contributions to the thread.


75 posted on 01/24/2014 4:03:15 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Irenic; MestaMachine

Well Putin’s been on the move rapidly in the years since Obama came into office. He knows there will be no opposition to anything he does ....certainly the stand off in Syria proved without a doubt who has the upper hand in “The Cold War” which has raised it’s head yet again...trouble is Obama hasn’t a clue and if does... has no concern.

Both China and Russia are on a rapid move since Obama came in to office....I remember years ago ..on THE MATRIX.....Mesta, and the rest of us there were sounding the alarm that this was going to happen, and Russia and China had to be watched regardless of what was happening in the Middle East...and here we are now with both those nations on the move bigtime!

Turkey will play into this but will favor Russia and the ME nations over the EU.


76 posted on 01/24/2014 4:04:03 PM PST by caww
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To: Rebelbase

My pleasure entirely...and thank you for posting the thread!


77 posted on 01/24/2014 4:06:08 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Much of the world seems to be resetting. Obama has been worthless. It sure makes me re-think that reset button Hillary gave to Russia.


78 posted on 01/24/2014 4:08:13 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

Maybe not rethink but think more deeply about.


79 posted on 01/24/2014 4:10:27 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: caww

Cream cheese, pickles and bread? Seems entirely with the realm of eastern European food.


80 posted on 01/24/2014 4:11:28 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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