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If You Hate Your Kids, Send Them to Public School
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2014 | Doug Giles

Posted on 01/20/2014 11:00:32 AM PST by Kaslin

Y’know, when I was a wee lad growing up in West Texas, public schools weren’t all that bad. We started our day off with the pledge of allegiance, said prayers during football games, actually studied our nation’s founding docs, sang patriotic songs, and we celebrated the true meaning of both Christmas and Easter.

In addition to that pro-American bliss, nearly everyone and their dog graduated. It’s true. Dogs were actually graduating from school back then. I know. Weird, eh?

Indeed, out of our large graduating class there was only one drop out and that was my childhood buddy who left school to join the Banditos’ motorcycle gang. He had a tattoo before tats became hip and groovy, ubiquitous and virulently narcissistic. (Speaking of tattoos: Girls … if you’re going to get a cute butterfly inked into your shoulder, you must make the general public a promise that you will not gain 600lbs later in life and have that blue moth morph into a massive, faded condor that we all have to stare at. If that’s too much to ask, then please cease to wear tube-tops so we don’t have to gawk at that muted, colored vulture on your enormous back. Deal? Deal. Anyway, back to the good old days …)

When our parents dumped us off at school, they weren’t riddled with fear that our schoolmarms were going to morph us into domestic terrorists who think Che Guevera is the bomb. Our folks also knew that sexed-up teachers wouldn’t teach kinky weirdness to their twelve-year-olds. No, if their kids were going to learn about sex it would be done in the traditional way via their older brothers and their Playboy magazine stash in the alley behind the house.

Today, as far as public schools are concerned, it’s a veritable loaded-dice roll regarding how your kids will come out after spending eight hours a day with our “educators“. More than likely, Dad, unless you’re Bill Ayers, Khalid Sheik Mohammed or Russell Brand, you’re not going to be too pleased with what the public schools do with your kids’ noggins.

This week, a story surfaced about the father of a thirteen-year-old girl who got righteously ticked when his daughter showed him a pic of what the loons were lacing his dear daughter’s curriculum with. Check it out:

The father of a 13 year-old girl who was upset by a classroom poster that listed sex acts was shocked to hear that the poster is part of her school’s health and science curriculum.

As local Fox News affiliate in Kansas, fox4kc.com, reported Tuesday, Mark Ellis said his daughter, a student at Hocker Grove Middle school in the Shawnee Mission School District, was “shocked” by what she saw on a poster on a classroom wall in school. Ellis said his daughter took a picture of the poster and showed her parents.

Originally, Ellis assumed the poster to be a student prank, until he called the school and discovered it was part of the curriculum.

Why would you put it in front of 13 year-old students? He asked.

The poster, entitled, “How Do People Express Their Sexual Feelings?” lists sex acts such as: Oral Sex, Sexual Fantasy, Caressing, Anal Sex, Dancing, Hugging, Touching Each Other’s Genitals, Kissing, Grinding, and Masturbation.

Ellis said after being told by the school principal the poster was “teaching material,” he is now concerned about what his daughter is being taught in school.

I’ve got two words for that poster being put out by a public school to 13-year-olds: they are “holy” and “guacamole”.

Man, when I was thirteen I had no real idea what sex was. I thought it consisted of my mom and dad wrestling with their shirts off. At least that’s what it looked like when they didn’t lock the door that one Friday night that, try as I may, I’ll never forget.

Sure, as a young pubescent boy I was attracted to girls. But we did normal things back then to show our interest in the opposite sex like: pull the girl’s hair, or jump a tall ramp on our Huffy while they watched, or suck milk through straws shoved up our nostrils. Y’know … something to show our prowess. It was cave man stuff.

Now, certainly the aforementioned wasn’t pretty or too suave, but it never came into to our minds that if we wanted to show we had feelings for a fair lass we should do it via anal sex. But that’s what is being taught at frickin’ Hocker Grove Middle School.

Good Lord, parents. You gotta take reins of your kids’ brains and bodies and rip them out of the hands of these bastions of banality, communism and overt sexualization.

Do it now, before it’s too late.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arth; children; education; educationandschools; obama; private; public; publicschools; school; sexed; teachers
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To: mrsmel

True, a dedicated and reasonably intelligent could do at least as well as publick skule in academia and much better in morality. My wife and I took our middle two out of public school and home schooled them because of the negative atmosphere to learning there.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 11:49:02 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Kaslin

I went to PS 41 and PS 76 in the Bronx NY back in the 50’s learned a lot. Some of my friends went to PS 113 also in the Bronx. Heard of many horror stories there. My parents had the good sense to move to Northern NJ before I started High School. Had a great education in the Bergen County public HS system.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 11:53:43 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Kaslin
My children attended public school and I am very well aware of the problems. I could tell you stories about incompetent teachers, gangs and other problems. But a lot of it depends on your kids.

My kids took a/p and college classes in high school. They have since graduated from college and they have good jobs. They are not perfect by any means but they never got involved with gangs or bad people, never got pregnant, never took drugs etc.

A lot of it is the values you teach your kids. If you teach them to be strong, self-reliant and moral they can do ok.

23 posted on 01/20/2014 11:56:59 AM PST by detective
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24 posted on 01/20/2014 11:57:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: chessplayer
Flooding private schools with bad students in the hope they will change will destroy private schools.

Except private schools can kick their butt out if they are troublemakers.

25 posted on 01/20/2014 11:59:53 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: GeronL

LOL...yes get them an Old Skool phone


26 posted on 01/20/2014 12:02:19 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Starstruck

Unfortunately a lot of private schools do not kick out belligerent students...no student no $$. Even worse is when the kids parents are big contributors to the school or church

Homeschool is best way


27 posted on 01/20/2014 12:06:31 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My church contributed nothing to my tuition and it was a Catholic High School. That is why I am very sour to my church they torture us for 8 years with religious instructions and communion and confirmation and help with nothing towards the private school. Also I know plenty of other “educated” folks that live in big mansions and drive fancy cars and sent their kids to the Hazleton Public High School. As long as they can have all their material items they could care less about the education of their children.
28 posted on 01/20/2014 12:10:50 PM PST by angcat
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To: SeminoleCounty
a lot of private schools do not kick out belligerent students...no student no $$

just like a public school?

29 posted on 01/20/2014 12:11:08 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SamAdams76

re: Anyway, whether you choose to send your kids to public school or private school, the responsibility for teaching your kids resides with you, the parent. From what I’m hearing, private schools might be better structured academically but they are still infested with the same politically correct nonsense as the public schools.

I totally agree. Regardless of how your kids are educated, the primary responsibility is “you”. An uninvolved parent, especially these days, is a recipe for problems. Parents with children in schools (whether they are public or private) need to be aware of the curriculum being taught and be able and willing to help their kids as needed. There are incompetent teachers in private as well as public schools. I can personally testify to that. The big shocker to me now is how much the Catholic schools have accepted an adopted the Common Core curriculum. I saw some lessons recently from a second grade class that appeared to me to be laying the foundation for promoting Marxism.


30 posted on 01/20/2014 12:17:16 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: Kaslin
Most middle class to upper class families are getting exactly what they want out of school, but the damage comes at the margins. Both the marginal families/students and the marginal qualitative difference at the top between what those mid to upper class families are getting.

Have you seen this?

Most students—whether A students, C students, or failing ones—have lost their zest for learning by the time they’ve reached middle school or high school. In a telling research study, professors Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Jeremy Hunter fitted more than 800 sixth through 12th graders, from 33 different schools across the country, with special wristwatches that emitted a signal at random times of day. Each time they received a signal, the students filled out a questionnaire indicating where they were, what they were doing, and how happy or unhappy they felt at the moment. The lowest levels of happiness, by far, were reported when the children were in school, where they were often bored, anxious, or both. Other researchers have shown that, with each successive grade, students develop increasingly negative attitudes toward the subjects taught, especially math and science.

As a society, we tend to shrug off such findings. We’re not surprised that kids are unhappy in school. Some people even believe that the very unpleasantness of school is good for children, so they will learn to tolerate unpleasantness as preparation for real life. But there are plenty of opportunities to learn to tolerate unpleasantness without adding unpleasant schooling to the mix. Research has shown that people of all ages learn best when they are self-motivated, pursuing answers to questions that reflect their personal interests and achieving goals that they’ve set for themselves. Under such conditions, learning is usually joyful.

Is the American School System Damaging Our Kids?

31 posted on 01/20/2014 12:19:14 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: marron

It becomes easier to understand the phenomenon if you call it kie it is: GOVERNMENT schools.


32 posted on 01/20/2014 12:20:52 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: angcat

My church contributes nothing either. The school is small and is self sustaining.


33 posted on 01/20/2014 12:23:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: chessplayer
In my experience, surrounding bad students with good students doesn’t make the bad student better. Just the opposite

As the saying goes, when you mix dirty water with clear water you get dirty water.

34 posted on 01/20/2014 1:08:24 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (itYe)
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To: Orangedog; mrsmel; GeronL; Albion Wilde; StoneWall Brigade; hometoroost; angcat; duckman; ...

“But doughy suburban house fraus don’t send their kids to actually learn useful skills. They send them there to play sports and be in clubs.”

Yeah, early networking; half the issue I was pushed to go to school (instead of homeschooling) to high school was because my parents wanted me ‘well socialized’. The House Fraus are the ones screeching about how their precious spud has one allergy after another and blame the school if their little darlings commit crimes like harassment or extreme bullying and file lawsuits if their angel-kins does not get a position on the cheer-leading squad. How many of these pampered brats become complete hippies or commit school shootings?


35 posted on 01/20/2014 2:04:24 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister
half the issue I was pushed to go to school (instead of homeschooling) to high school was because my parents wanted me ‘well socialized’.

Funny you should say that. That's what I thought. But since then, I've realized that the kids I knew who were homeschooled or who went to private schools hosted by local churches were much more at ease dealing with adults, and had much less of the proverbial "chip on shoulder" that you expect from teenagers. Still teens, still kids, but more sane.

That's when I realized that this is the right answer: if you can, get your kids out of public schools. Grandparents, you may have to help.

36 posted on 01/20/2014 3:02:04 PM PST by marron
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To: angcat

I was left to fend with four kids, 720 in child support and I continued to homeschool them. It can be done.


37 posted on 01/20/2014 3:13:13 PM PST by Chickensoup (V)
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To: marron

You know, having a regular job is what socialized me the best about boundaries and what was and what wasn’t appropriate.

The real issue I have, is how a lot of parents moan about not being rich, but the real problem is a lack of being resourceful. With the internet and the right kind of structure, along with technical skill training (some courses don’t require a high school diploma) and well developed professional connections, a person can go anywhere.

The real problem with public schools is that the teachers are forced to be a variety of things, but at the same time, don’t know a THING about the subject they are supposed to teach. Another issue is that parents want their spud to be pampered and protected and coddled (allergies for example) and refuse to let the teachers and other faculty in doing their job in keeping an ordered classroom/school.

Really, it’s no wonder kids are mixed up. It’s not mothers working outside the home, but parents unwilling to understand that school is also about their kids being self-sufficient. It’s about teaching kids to start looking after themselves academically.


38 posted on 01/20/2014 5:13:42 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: mrsmel

Good point; they learn nothing because the troublemakers are allowed to run wild.


39 posted on 01/20/2014 5:14:55 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Kaslin

I’m often amazed how so many FReepers think nothing of slandering 99% of other FReepers.


40 posted on 01/20/2014 5:25:40 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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