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1 posted on 01/20/2014 4:15:21 AM PST by markomalley
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>> Mark Zuckerberg ($50 million) and the Chamber of Commerce

Do these folks care about the “pre-existing” labor force?


2 posted on 01/20/2014 4:17:04 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: markomalley
Analyzing this issue in the context of employment statistics and the nation's labor pool really misses the whole point.

The push for amnesty isn't driven by a desire to import more cheap labor (otherwise, why would many the same interests pushing for amnesty also be pushing for minimum wage hikes that will only drive employment levels down?). This whole thing -- from the Chamber of Commerce to public-sector labor unions to the elected officials who are firmly in their back pockets -- is driven by the perceived need to get more consumers into the U.S.

This is the inevitable "end-game" for a nation that has run its course in history and is now positioned as a fading empire whose only purpose is to feed a massive consumer/entitlement culture. The U.S. government would even be fully on board with a plan to allow 10 million hardened criminals from other countries to become citizens tomorrow ... because there's always a major interest out there who sees them as a huge business opportunity (the "law enforcement industrial complex," comprised of police officers, lawyers, the prison management sector, etc.).

3 posted on 01/20/2014 4:30:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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They will do what thy jolly well please. But, I hope they understand if they do this I will never vote for a Republican canidate for anything again. I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of special intrest groups instead of “We the People”!
Freegards
LEX


6 posted on 01/20/2014 4:48:16 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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When you grant amnesty to 11 million invading fence jumpers you also ring the bell to at least another 10 million come on up!If I was sitting in a hut in El Salvador I would come up to American, learn the ropes of working under the table,and find my acorn navigator to teach me how to game the system. Who will stop me? I can do whatever I want and take from the stupid gringos,if anyone says anything I’ll cry racism!


7 posted on 01/20/2014 4:50:49 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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RE “1) There will be some form of legalization (conditional amnesty) for the 11 million illegal immigrants already here. It won’t give them a “special” path to citizenship, but they will likely be able to pursue citizenship through regular old channels. Either way, the message sent to potential future immigrants will be, “If you come here illegally, you’ll get to stay legally.” Plus, once the bill has passed the Democratic campaign to paint the GOP as racist for not granting general citizenship to the whole group will begin”

One can imagine Dems playing it that way, yet I have yet to hear a single Dem say that he/she would vote for a bill that has no citizenship in it.

Plus if the Dems were to go along with it and vote for it that makes it harder for them to run against it, especially in the short term.

Voting rights is a big issue for Dems, like against voter IDs, and trying to get back those VRA provisions.
Getting illegals the vote is what they are after.

8 posted on 01/20/2014 5:07:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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Change that to read RINO-GOP Party. The party that I was once a member of, the GOP, has died, like most of the country.


11 posted on 01/20/2014 5:31:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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Sellout

**********
The Republicans are good at something. Caving in and selling out is what they do. Its how they roll.


15 posted on 01/20/2014 6:07:26 AM PST by Starboard
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American won’t have to work; the illegals will work and pay taxes so we can retire. Great campaign commercial in this somewhere.... Even a welfare IDO!T could understand an errors ion of their “entitlement”.


17 posted on 01/20/2014 6:34:45 AM PST by Jumper
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Something that should be pointed out to the Republican leadership, if they have any pattern recognition.

1) Republicans ended slavery, used Reconstruction to elevate former slaves into positions of political power, opposed Jim Crow laws, and forced Civil Rights law on the South. In return, since the Civil Rights era, blacks have almost exclusively voted for Democrats.

2) Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens, under president Ronald Reagan. Hispanics of all ages in the U.S. today are more than twice as likely to identify with or lean to the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.

Thus, the Republican leadership should stop ignoring patterns like the Democrats do. If they reward citizens of foreign countries at the expense of American citizens, yet get politically punished for doing so by those foreign citizens, obviously they need to rethink their strategy.


18 posted on 01/20/2014 6:42:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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The GOP elite is willilng to lose their base in order to get a few hispanic votes. They are insane.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 7:25:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I shall do my best to boycott all businesses that support amnesty and all businesses that are members of the Chamber of Commerce Communism.
25 posted on 01/20/2014 7:38:52 AM PST by Thom Pain (Income Inequality is caused by Effort/Discipline Inequality!!)
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> “ If strong voter opposition makes itself heard again, as it has in the past, the majority of the GOP caucus that Boehner says he needs probably go along with his pro-amnesty “principles.” “

Boehner is no longer observing the Hastert Rule which requires a majority of republicans to be in favor of a bill before the bill is brought to the floor for a vote.

Any bill that is brought to the House floor needs all of the dems and only 17 ‘squishes’ on the republican side to pass.

But Boehner controls which bills are brought to the House floor for a vote. If he doesn’t bring immigration to the floor, then it never gets voted on. If he brings it, then there are enough votes on the dem side and 17 on the republican side to pass it.

Boehner has already indicated he will bring the immigration bill to the House floor for a vote.

Once it passes in the House, it will go to the Senate who will git the House bill and insert their own. Then the new Senate version will be voted on in the House and it will pass.

There is no stopping it now unless 10 million Americans show up in DC and convince every republican and a few dems for insurance to vote against the bill.

And what if it passes and is signed by Obama?

Then 7 million + Mexicans will register to vote even though they are not citizens. They will register and be ‘guided’ how to vote.

The result is the dems keep the Senate and possibly take back the House.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 1:48:41 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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