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Physical punishment tied to aggression, hyperactivity
sun-sentinel.com ^ | January 17, 2014 | Kathleen Raven

Posted on 01/19/2014 5:30:35 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

Regardless of the culture a child lives in, corporal punishment may do lasting psychological harm, German researchers say.

In a new study conducted in Tanzania, where physical punishment is considered normal, primary school students who were beaten by teachers or family members in the name of discipline tended to show more behavior problems, not fewer, the researchers found.

"Parents aim to educate children through corporal punishment, but instead of learning good social behaviors, the beatings often have the opposite effect," said Tobias Hecker, a psychologist at the University of Konstanz, who led the study.

"Some people still believe, despite an overwhelming body of evidence, that corporal punishment in some cultures won't result in as many negative effects," George Holden told Reuters Health.

"But, as this study shows, it's difficult to find support for that argument," said Holden, a professor of psychology at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, who was not involved in the study.

Past research, mainly in industrialized countries, has found that children and teens who experience corporal punishment may "externalize" their negative experiences in the form of bad behavior and emotional problems, Hecker and his colleagues write in the journal Child Abuse & Neglect.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: angrystudies; junkscience; leftistagenda; liberalism; tanzania
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To: ilovesarah2012

the Tanzanians beat the kids, it is abusive, hitting them on the head, all kinds of cruelty

we see it here in the states when the neighbors hotline the African immigrants for child abuse


41 posted on 01/19/2014 6:51:09 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You obviously have no children (or soon to be grown brats out of control)

Spanking is an essential tool (among others) to raising good kids, and if done right is hardly ever needed after the age of about 6. Oh, and by the way my kids (4 of them) love me to death and take every opportunity to love on me, kiss and cuddle with me.

I get unsolicited comments from total strangers all the time on how well behaved my children are. A child properly disciplined when young will hardly ever need to be spanked beyond the age of about 6-7 (they threat alone will suffice).

I have had several relatives with older children try to get me to take in their teenage delinquents and I wanted nothing to do with that idea. It's too late by then! If they don't understand right and wrong, discipline and punishment by about 7-8 your screwed.

42 posted on 01/19/2014 6:52:41 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: miss marmelstein

you are right, I have heard a black mother say something like “I am going to break him”

also the idea in the black community that it is acceptable to beat kids with an extension cord really outrages me

I have considered purchasing a billboard with a picture of an electric cord and a four year old stating “it’s child abuse”


43 posted on 01/19/2014 6:53:54 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: clee1

you don’t know what you’re talking about


44 posted on 01/19/2014 6:54:45 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I totally agree with you


45 posted on 01/19/2014 6:58:40 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have had several relatives with older children try to get me to take in their teenage delinquents and I wanted nothing to do with that idea. It's too late by then! If they don't understand right and wrong, discipline and punishment by about 7-8 your screwed.

I'm not even sure it has much to do with moral reasoning. Humans, like all animals, are creatures of habit. The point of spanking is to prevent children from forming bad habits, of thought and behavior, that they will take with them into adulthood - habits that will impair their future success or even their ability to function in society.

46 posted on 01/19/2014 7:01:19 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Physical punishment tied to aggression, hyperactivity

What is wrong with aggression and hyperactivity? Aggressive, hyperactive people forge empires and build civilizations.

47 posted on 01/19/2014 7:08:39 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
A common problem with spanking is that it easily morphs from an intentional “punishment” to an outlet for a parent’s frustration and anger—and the self-deception in this is practically impenetrable. And the more spanking, the more rage in the child.

Quite right. I have three children (2 full grown) and, I think, they have been spanked a combined total of 5 times, maybe 8-10 swats in all. In each case it was over a safety issue. A child who kept letting himself out of the house is one I remember.

I hate to spank my children. But I think it needs to be available when it is an eye opener for the child whose behavior is putting him in danger. It can only be an eye opener when it is out of the ordinary. Routine spanking eliminates any positive that may come from using them.

48 posted on 01/19/2014 7:10:24 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ilovesarah2012
In a new study conducted in Tanzania, where physical punishment is considered normal, primary school students who were beaten by teachers or family members in the name of discipline tended to show more behavior problems, not fewer, the researchers found.

Don't these people have cause and effect a bit turned around?

49 posted on 01/19/2014 7:10:43 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Flick Lives

your story is total bullsh8

the Bible says the laws of God are written in our hearts

Jeremiah 31:33

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my law in their bowels, and I will write it in their heart: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 7:22:29 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Arthur McGowan; miss marmelstein
There are several other subjects that bring out the Neanderthals.

I think it is just that there are a lot more Neanderthals on FR than there used to be. Back in the late 90's when I lurked and then finally signed up, there was a core group of seemingly very thoughtful, intelligent people on here. I really felt I was on the same page as most people who posted here. Now, a lot of random people with thuggish attitudes show up and spew on all subjects.I don't post nearly as much as I used to.

On the positive side, most of, what I have seen as the worst of the goons have been banned over time.

51 posted on 01/19/2014 7:27:54 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Arthur McGowan

God is a moron?


52 posted on 01/19/2014 7:34:33 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: southern rock
Back in the late 90's when I lurked and then finally signed up, there was a core group of seemingly very thoughtful, intelligent people on here. I really felt I was on the same page as most people who posted here.

I didn't sign up until 2000 but at that time I used to have intelligent conversations about constitutional law and other subjects. Now people just repeat the rants that they have heard on Fox News or from some whack job like Alex Jones.

53 posted on 01/19/2014 7:39:58 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Were you spanked?


54 posted on 01/19/2014 7:41:02 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: yldstrk

Yeah, what’s with the extension cord? I see how many black mothers treat their kids in public. No wonder they turn out to be criminals.


55 posted on 01/19/2014 7:45:39 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I was talking to a missionary to Africa. He told me in many areas the AIDS orphan rate is above 50%. How could a study be anywhere accurate in that kind of environment.


56 posted on 01/19/2014 7:50:20 AM PST by the_daug
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To: Straight Vermonter

Yes, I signed up in 2000 as well. It felt like a private club that I was sneaking into at that point. Everyone seemed extremely informed. Now, as this thread is evidence, most people can’t even stay on subject or bother to read the article. They see one word in a title and throw in their emotional $.02


57 posted on 01/19/2014 7:58:51 AM PST by southern rock
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To: the_daug

Good point.


58 posted on 01/19/2014 8:14:35 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> In a new study conducted in Tanzania, where physical punishment is considered normal, primary school students who were beaten by teachers or family members in the name of discipline tended to show more behavior problems, not fewer, the researchers found.

Physical punishment is typically doled out to children, typically boys-only, who already express themselves physically, and related to their environment physically (hands-on). The much more civilized western countries accomplish the same kind of invalidating psychological injury through prescription drugs and zero tolerance policies.

Thanks ilovesarah2012.


59 posted on 01/19/2014 8:30:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Arthur McGowan

That’s pretty ignorant!!!


60 posted on 01/19/2014 9:10:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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