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U.S. District Judge Rules Oklahoma Ban on Marriage Equality Unconstitutional
Human Rights Campaign ^ | January 14, 2014 | HRC staff

Posted on 01/14/2014 2:33:09 PM PST by BurningOak

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To: BurningOak

“God is still in control.”

I sure would like to see a little more evidence of that.


61 posted on 01/14/2014 4:31:40 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: BurningOak

If a Russian judge ruled that this was a right, he’d be dead within a month, and his house would have been burned down.


62 posted on 01/14/2014 4:31:57 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: highball

Exactly. I see it as a moral failure of the TEA Party. It is easy to scream NO MORE TAXES! Everyone hates taxes, much harder to say no to federal money. Tell people you want the state to get out of social security and medicare, and watch the room go eerily silent.

Sadly many conservatives do not want to pay the fed, but are perfectly content taking from it.


63 posted on 01/14/2014 4:34:45 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: sergeantdave

It doesn’t matter how much we control the state governments though, does it? If they can appeal to the federal courts, where most of the judges are progressives, what can the states do? The governors? The legislatures? The voters?

The only recourse is for states to DISOBEY the federal government, and in Utah, that didn’t happen. The officials buckled and began handing out the licenses. This is where the pessimism comes from. Our states seem as unwilling to fight as most of our senators. Look at how many folded on Obamacare!

We have this in-built mentality now that the states have no rights, that the federal government, especially the judicial branch, are all-powerful. Yet the Founders would spit on the SCOTUS and lower courts of today. The tyranny and hubris is palpable.


64 posted on 01/14/2014 4:37:39 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Amen......

Arrest the US attorneys and judges....... there is bound to be some semi viable charge


65 posted on 01/14/2014 4:38:23 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: BurningOak

The progressives trapped the states with federal welfare. Federal welfare should NEVER have even been constitutional let alone the law.

Although look at case in point Uganda, which relies heavily on foreign aid from Britain and the USA. Their lawmakers worried not about the aid being turned off in the wake of their sodomy bill because it would only go to prove their point that the west is continuing its legacy of imperialism, and the Ugandan population would rally to their side.


66 posted on 01/14/2014 4:41:09 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: BurningOak

That is a superficial reply I’d expect from a leftist troll. Like a typical 50 IQ leftist, you didn’t answer the question and tried to change the subject.

Answer the question, DU troll.


67 posted on 01/14/2014 4:42:00 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: bert

“Arrest the US attorneys and judges....... there is bound to be some semi viable charge”

Arrest US federal official = declare war on federal government. Hard to do when everyone involved from the governor, to the local law enforcement, to the populace is receiving regular paychecks from the feds.


68 posted on 01/14/2014 4:42:20 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: bert

We have entered a ‘kritarchy’ or a period of ‘rule by judges’. This no longer a Constitutional Republic. If there were a draft for war, I’d proudly ignore it. I refuse to fight for a kritarchy. I have no allegiance to a damn kritarchy!


69 posted on 01/14/2014 4:43:39 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: lowbridge

Our lives are but a blink in the eye of eternity. This judge is going to hell.


70 posted on 01/14/2014 4:44:45 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: sergeantdave

I gave you a perfectly good reply, its not my fault you live in denial.

Non of the legislatures are controlled by patriots. Every single state government takes money from and is therefore controlled by Obama. That is the hard truth.

Prove me wrong, name a single state that has even partial sovereignty and is not on the federal tit.


71 posted on 01/14/2014 4:48:26 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Viennacon

What a country!


72 posted on 01/14/2014 4:57:01 PM PST by yakov661
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To: Viennacon

What a country!


73 posted on 01/14/2014 4:57:01 PM PST by yakov661
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To: BurningOak

What makes you think I accept your idiotic premise that if a state accepts federally-subsidized peanut butter for school lunches that the state is controlled by your hero Buckwheat?

You live in la-la land.

BTW, troll, I’m still waiting for an answer to my question. You won’t give an answer because you can’t.


74 posted on 01/14/2014 5:09:28 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: BurningOak

The Judge has rendered his ruling. Now let him enforce it.


75 posted on 01/14/2014 5:10:16 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: greene66
One of the reasons I truly, truly am looking at secession as being the only recourse left.

The feds certainly are pushing the states in that direction, aren't they?

76 posted on 01/14/2014 5:11:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GeronL
All it takes is one judge apparently, the voice of the people matters not

That's what happened in California with Prop 8. The people voted to ban gay 'marriage', and one man in a black robe overturned it.

77 posted on 01/14/2014 5:14:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BurningOak

Mister Burning. Can you tell me where the fed got the money to give back to the several States?


78 posted on 01/14/2014 5:19:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: BurningOak
Secession means armed revolution against the federal government. It means canyons filled with corpses and large parts of the nation turning into Syria or Somalia.

Bullsquish.

Secession is a purely political decision to leave a union of states. There's nothing inherently violent about it, unless one side decides to use military force and murder to force the other side to bend to its will.

THAT is the thing that is unthinkable in this day and age - not secession itself. This isn't 1861. Secession by one or more states will not result in the use of force by the U.S. to compel those states to remain in the union. The political and societal will to use brute force against a peaceful political process does not exist in our time.

79 posted on 01/14/2014 5:21:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: txhurl

From me and you. Its the worst of scams, we pay taxes and it goes to feds, from feds to states to bribe local government against our own interests. The whole thing is a house of cards but any real change has to come from the taxpayer, the state governments will not rise up until individuals do.


80 posted on 01/14/2014 5:29:08 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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