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1 posted on 01/09/2014 9:29:44 PM PST by smokingfrog
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More details from The Daily Mail UK

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536931/New-footage-shows-harrowing-moment-small-plane-crashed-Hawaii-killed-woman-published-President-Obamas-birth-certificate.html


2 posted on 01/09/2014 9:33:52 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Bump.


3 posted on 01/09/2014 9:37:15 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: LucyT

Over here......


4 posted on 01/09/2014 9:39:53 PM PST by azishot
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To: smokingfrog

Hmmmmmm.


5 posted on 01/09/2014 9:42:51 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: smokingfrog
Flashback 1999:

Ron Brown’s Death Still A Mystery

By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid
March 10, 1999

When the Air Force plane carrying Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown crashed in Croatia in April 1996, rumors immediately circulated that the beacon that was supposed to guide the plane to the airport had been set to guide the plane into the mountain nearby. This was allegedly done by an employee at the airport who was found shot to death three days later. His death was declared a suicide. When it became known that the beacon at the airport had a fixed setting that could not be changed, the story changed. It was said that a portable beacon had been set up on the mountain to lure the plane off course.

At the time, we were skeptical of this story, which was widely circulated by a publication called Wall Street Underground. It seemed to us to be a concoction based on imagination, not on factual evidence. However, thanks to the persistent efforts of Hugh Sprunt, a Texas tax expert and part-time investigator of political crimes, we now have evidence supporting the rumor that the plane carrying Ron Brown was deliberately guided to crash into the mountain.

Hugh Sprunt, who has studied all the investigative reports of the Brown plane crash, has discovered in an official Air Force report on the crash detailed data showing the plane’s course based on AWACS airborne radar. The radar shows that when the plane was within four minutes of touching down at Dubrovnik, it suddenly changed course radically. It turned to the left almost 90 degrees. A few seconds later, it made a U turn back to the right. It then fixed on a course with a heading of 110 degrees, which it followed for over a minute, ending with the plane crashing into the mountain, nearly two miles off course.

The Air Force jet, carrying the Secretary of Commerce and 14 business executives who were accompanying Brown on a trade mission, crashed into a mountain, killing all aboard. The pilots, who were making an instrument landing through a low cloud cover and a light rain, obviously thought they were being guided to a safe landing by a beacon at the Dubrovnik airport. But that beacon would have put them on a course with a heading of 119 degrees, 9 degrees farther to the right than the course they followed.

Maj. General Charles Coolidge, who headed the Air Force investigation of the accident, won’t explain why his report failed to mention the radical course correction by the plane that sent it into the mountain. He told Hugh Sprunt that his technical advisers said this was an anomaly of no significance, but he has not answered Sprunt?s request for an explanation of that judgment. ...”

http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/ron-browns-death-still-a-mystery/

7 posted on 01/09/2014 9:46:59 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: smokingfrog

I can’t see video on my computer. Does the link to ABC actually show the video?


9 posted on 01/09/2014 10:01:57 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: smokingfrog

As far as I know, there has been no report on her cause of death. It’s still under investigation. That seems strange to me.


12 posted on 01/09/2014 10:08:13 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: smokingfrog

Still waiting for the autopsy report on cause of death. It’s taking an unusually long time. I suspect the report is being “reviewed”.


15 posted on 01/09/2014 10:21:07 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: smokingfrog

A+ coverup..!

You get the official imprimatur on the whitewash, and the microsecond after the sounding of the Chinese gong ya go and KILL the trusting stooge who punched your ticket — “a clean operation”.

What’s the FIRST rule of a successful assassination...?

We all know, and here we’re seeing something similar.


17 posted on 01/09/2014 10:27:18 PM PST by gaijin
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder if Loretta’s family are taking a deeper look at all this, or did the Government just step in and say, you don’t have to worry yourself, we will handle everything for you?


19 posted on 01/09/2014 10:41:36 PM PST by A child of Yah (I once was lost, but now I'm found, twas grace that set me free ... thank you LORD)
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To: smokingfrog

I can’t wait for the CIA animation of ‘what really happened.’ It will prove that the plane split into 2 pieces then climbed 3000 feet after the center fuel tank exploded whereupon a bald eagle rammed Fuddy in the forehead triggering a stroke.


23 posted on 01/09/2014 11:17:34 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: smokingfrog

“Plane crash survivor breaks silence (Ferdinand Puentes)”

So why is Ferdinand Puentes wearing a U.S. Marshal’s cap in the water in one of the photos.

Is he a U.S. Marshal? Or does the U.S. Coast Guard hand out U.S. Marshal caps during rescues?


25 posted on 01/10/2014 1:15:40 AM PST by Felis cactus II
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To: smokingfrog
It descends straight down to the ocean and crashes on the surface.

Straight down? Doesn't look that way.

Crashes on the surface? Rather than above the surface or below the surface?

26 posted on 01/10/2014 2:16:50 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: smokingfrog
Uh .... huh.....

And we should believe a known LIAR and ID THIEF because????

28 posted on 01/10/2014 3:49:42 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: smokingfrog

After applying advanced computer enhancement techniques I was able to delineate a mysterious 10th person sitting next to Fuddy. It appears to be a negroid woman, although the image could just as easily be a man….) approximately 6 feet tall weighing around 180 pounds. She’s wearing an Afro wig and a Boob Belt. Moments before impact you can see here inject Fuddy with a syringe which probably contained potassium chloride. The woman then dives underwater and appears to swim toward Oprah Winfrey’s house on the shore. Then the image vanishes.


36 posted on 01/10/2014 6:19:07 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: smokingfrog

In April 2011, Fuddy verified the authenticity of certified copies of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, proving that he had been born in Hawaii. Obama had requested the release to curb claims by opponents that he was born in Kenya and not eligible to be president.

So why would the Obama Mafia have her offed if they told her to release the document?


46 posted on 01/10/2014 8:15:24 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: smokingfrog

bookmark


50 posted on 01/10/2014 9:30:06 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: smokingfrog; butterdezillion
"dramatic images"
"It descends straight down to the ocean and crashes on the surface."
"they floated for an hour in choppy waters"

What possessed reporter Carmen Cox to put down these sensational terms? The video shows something that's about as tame and calm as this kind of event could be!

"[D]escends straight down? You don't say! It looked to me to be less than a 10degree downward glide at the end, which would have been standard practice in such an event for the pilot to attempt. Straight down? No such thing happened there! But someone wants us to think in such false, overly dramatized terms!

Choppy waters? Who's trying to kid whom? By any seaman's definition, that's a calm sea! Choppy would define a sea whose waves might, just might throw a little water in a swimmer's face. A swimming pool with two swimmers would generate more "choppiness" than the water in the video.

And yet, ABC has this sensational stuff, and we at FR were treated to the sensational, over-the-top characterizations of the event by momentarily-nameless individuals.

Those individuals seemed to suggest the survivors would be exhausted from having to wait in the wave-swept water that long. Perhaps the few that were very excited and quickly swam ashore and weren't used to that level of exertion were exhausted, but I see no reason to suggest that any life-jacketed person would become exhausted by merely trying to stay alive in that calm ocean. Neither do I see anything that could possibly have caused Keith Yamamoto to lose grasp of Ms. Fuddy because of "choppy" seas. By the video evidence, everyone was even calmer than one would expect.

Furthermore, a Freeper (troll) suggested this amount of time in the 77-78 degree water could have led to hypothermia. That temperature is warmer than the water in a large majority of swimming pools. Just light paddling would be sufficient to keep most people adequately warm while swimming in that water, all the more as people generally had on clothes. Though Keith had just swimming trunks and a T-shirt, I'm given to understand. "How convenient!"

HF

55 posted on 01/10/2014 9:56:57 AM PST by holden
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To: smokingfrog
Later, related FR thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3110483/posts

75 posted on 01/10/2014 4:02:38 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: smokingfrog

I wonder if these people weren’t participating in some kind of emergency drill? wouldn’t that have been within the ambit of the Health Dept?


77 posted on 01/10/2014 8:06:07 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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