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Pope: 'Authentic' Islam opposes violence
WND ^ | 11/26/2013 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/06/2014 5:22:44 PM PST by FR_addict

Pope Francis’ insistence in his new apostolic exhortation that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence” is drawing negative reviews from some analysts of the religion who point to the Islamic holy book’s calls to wage war against nonbelievers.

“How does he know that? When did he become an imam?” wonders columnist Pamela Geller.

She notes as an example the Quranic passage that states: “So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks.”

“At a time when Christianity worldwide is under siege by Islamic jihadists, the leader of the Catholic Church claims that the Quran teaches nonviolence,” Geller writes. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: authenticislam; islam; koran; mohammed; pope; popefrancis
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To: FR_addict

Maybe because authentic roman catholicism is exactly what the reformation folks told us it was...


21 posted on 01/06/2014 5:38:53 PM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Perhaps Francis needs the second coming of Martin Luther?


22 posted on 01/06/2014 5:41:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: FR_addict

Have they LEGALIZED marijuana in the Vatican?


23 posted on 01/06/2014 5:42:52 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: FR_addict

This Pope is truly confused.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 5:43:27 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: delchiante

Maybe not — being as this pope is about as far from authentic Catholicism as any pope has ever been.


25 posted on 01/06/2014 5:44:07 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: delchiante

The state of Roman Catholic thought is... just... weird.

I firmly hold to an affirmation of the POWER of Christ to keep even the most oddball of those who have accepted His salvation saved. I do not have a problem there. He does it anywhere His name can be called upon. No human if’s, and’s, or but’s intervene! (Otherwise, we have a salvation theology of Christ plus. Even the Sola Fideists are sometimes theologizing Christ plus... i.e. plus a humanly held Sola Fide doctrine!)

But the THEOLOGY (we’re on a human level now) has gotten badly polluted.


26 posted on 01/06/2014 5:44:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Starstruck

RE: The Pope is an idiot and definitely not infallible.

The Pope is not speaking ex-cathedra, so yes, in this regard, he is infallible.


27 posted on 01/06/2014 5:44:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: VideoDoctor

Would you be surprised if he brought a supply of “the good stuff” with him from South America?


28 posted on 01/06/2014 5:44:57 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Starstruck
The Pope is an idiot and definitely not infallible.

He's just another man, like you and I. No better, no worse. I need Jesus. He needs Jesus, too.

I just wish all these people would focus on God instead of some old guy who lives in a gold mansion in Rome.

29 posted on 01/06/2014 5:45:18 PM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: HKMk23

Amen and Amen. Im certainly not what I of as a scholar but I have read enough of the stinking koran and the hadiths to know how very wrong the pope is.

Perhaps he has some inside word on al qaidas plans to fly a plane or two into the vatican, and is trying to buy them off?


30 posted on 01/06/2014 5:45:38 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( a Safe..and Sane....2014 To All!)
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To: Bryanw92
The Pope is a Jesuit. This religious order definitely leans left. But his statement that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence” is not even close to the truth. It reminds me of the lies Obama tells to the American people. Maybe the uninformed voter can be persuaded by the lies, but not those who keep informed.

The Pope's propaganda seems to be similar. Anyone who has read up on Mohammed and the Koran knows that what he is saying is definitely not true, but those who haven't bothered to find out what Islam teaches might believe him.

The Pope is spreading propaganda about Islam and I find that disturbing. Priests in the Jesuit order are highly educated, so it's not like he doesn't know.

31 posted on 01/06/2014 5:46:21 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
It was indeed an amazingly stupid thing for Pope Francis to say. Remember when in 2006 (the Regensberg speech) Pope Benedict asked, in an academic philosophical forum, whether Islamic doctrine had roots in the Logos (Reason) which would permit the common ground for rational discussion --- and the Islamosphere's response was rioting on 3 continents and 19 people dead, including an elderly nun who cared for orphans, who was shot in the back.

One small consolation is that this was an Apostolic Exhortation, which Cardinal Burke says contains no definitions of doctrine and is not a part of the papal magisterium.

Burke: "Exhortation Not Part of the Papal Magisterium" (Link)

Magdi Cristiano Allam, Robert Spencer, and Raymond Ibrahim should have a good, long talk with Pope Francis.

32 posted on 01/06/2014 5:46:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. " -- Flannery OÂ’Connor)
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To: SeekAndFind

you meant to say, I think, fallible. even in the Roman Catholic system.


33 posted on 01/06/2014 5:46:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“This Pope is truly confused.”

How about this Pope is being deliberately duplicious regarding Islam, just as Obama.

Electing commies edidently is working no better for the College of Cardinals than it did in the Electoral College.


34 posted on 01/06/2014 5:47:24 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: FR_addict
Okay, but then how does the authentic Catholic Church feel about homosexuality any where?

That is the one thing they both really agree on. Islam though rejects it as do all sane religions. It is just different between the two of them in that one of the tenets of Islam (and exposed by it's leaders is murder. Islam accepts and encourages it in so many facets of life.

So Pope, they are not nearly (thank God) as much alike as you may think.
35 posted on 01/06/2014 5:49:40 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: FR_addict
"Wrong. Untrue."
36 posted on 01/06/2014 5:49:42 PM PST by hout8475
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To: SeekAndFind
The Pope is not speaking ex-cathedra, so yes, in this regard, he is infallible.

Checked my Bible and didn't find this "ex-cathedra". Is it in the Douay?

37 posted on 01/06/2014 5:50:02 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: FR_addict

Why is the pope pretending to be anything other than a liberation theologian????


38 posted on 01/06/2014 5:50:14 PM PST by Nifster
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To: FR_addict

The Pope might have an understanding of Christian doctrine, but he sure as hell doesn’t understand the Muslim religion.


39 posted on 01/06/2014 5:51:00 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: FR_addict

The answer to that is that he sees that the Republican parry has openings for a leader lately, and...?


40 posted on 01/06/2014 5:51:30 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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