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Big-bang-defying giant of astronomy passes away (article)
Creation.com ^ | 12-31-13 | John G. Hartnett

Posted on 01/02/2014 9:11:49 AM PST by fishtank

Big-bang-defying giant of astronomy passes away

by John G. Hartnett

Published: 31 December 2013 (GMT+10)

Halton Arp passed away on Saturday morning 28th December 2013 in Munich, Germany. He will be sorely missed by many but not so much by others because of his challenges to the ruling big bang paradigm.

With Geoffrey Burbidge and others, Professor Halton Arp was a thorn in the side of those who held to the standard story line of the big bang. In many papers and several books1 he promoted the idea that quasars are born from the nucleus of active galaxies—parent galaxies.

In the standard big bang model their very large redshifts are interpreted according to the Hubble Law to mean they are the most distant sources in the universe.

According to Arp’s alternative model, evidence strongly suggests that they are associated with relatively nearby active galaxies and that they have been ejected from those parent galaxies.

One extremely good example of this was reported in the Astrophysical Journal2 in 2004 where a quasar was found embedded in the galaxy NGC 7319 only 8 arc minutes from its centre. See figure 1. The arrow indicates the quasar.

This finding was presented by Margaret Burbidge at the January 2004 AAS meeting in Atlanta. The response, according to Halton Arp, was “overwhelming silence.” It was reported on the University of California, San Diego webpage (10 January 2005).3 The subtitle is “Can A ‘Distant’ Quasar Lie Within A Nearby Galaxy?”, extolling the riddle.

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KEYWORDS: astronomy; bigbang; catastrophism; creation; giant; haltonarp; obituaries; obituary; stringtheory; xplanets
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Halton Arp (1927–2013)

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1 posted on 01/02/2014 9:11:49 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

well now he knows


2 posted on 01/02/2014 9:16:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: fishtank

Chip Arp will be missed. He was well liked by everyone ion the astronomical community.

Rest in Peace


3 posted on 01/02/2014 9:25:36 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


4 posted on 01/02/2014 9:32:13 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: buffaloguy

Einstein was right! For the big bang to have happened, all laws of physics and nature would have to be suspended for some time and then have to be reinstated. It happened some other way, but not the big bang.


5 posted on 01/02/2014 9:50:02 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

So far, the Big Bang seems to be holding up. There are problems with Arps’s theories which haven’t been resolved to anyone’s satisfaction.


6 posted on 01/02/2014 10:06:31 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: fishtank

In case anyone wants to know more about quasars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar


7 posted on 01/02/2014 10:09:59 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: fishtank
Arp's book is worth reading. It is accessible to the non-scientist. Even if he's wrong, he presents some strong arguments that must be answered by the proponents of a big bang.
8 posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:51 AM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: buffaloguy

Big Bang is a bunch of flagrant bullshit which should have been rejected on day one on purely philosophical grounds. Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the mother of all black holes; nothing would ever “bang(TM)” its way out of that.


9 posted on 01/02/2014 11:59:00 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Moonman62
The old works in a drawer tv set? Yeah I remember those.


10 posted on 01/02/2014 12:05:20 PM PST by xp38
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Wow that’s a memory from my youth.


11 posted on 01/02/2014 12:06:56 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: varmintman
The Big Bang theory was around in the 1950’s until Einstein got ahold of it. He completely obliterated it. They went silent until after he died in 1956. Then the goofballs started climbing out from under the woodwork again. There is no science behind the theory.
12 posted on 01/02/2014 2:00:54 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: fishtank
Was not aware that Halton Arp had passed.

RIP Mr. Arp.

I enjoy scientific anomalies and he found them, with proof.

13 posted on 01/02/2014 2:10:18 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Check out "Hidden in Plain Sight 2" by Dr. Andrew Thomas. 0.99 dollars on Kindle. Fairly radical, and highly thought provoking. Generally, that gravity aims to hold systems of objects (and massive objects) at their Schwartzchild radius. The "big bang" was no bang, no "inflationary" period. The expansion of the universe is speeding up as we see it, now, due to nature's impulse, enforced by gravity, that the size of the universe be its Schwarzchild radius.
14 posted on 01/02/2014 2:25:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: xp38

Here’s a quasar TV commercial, featuring some chick named Welch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlk9-NGMrDQ


15 posted on 01/02/2014 2:26:23 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Thanks for that :)


16 posted on 01/02/2014 4:37:39 PM PST by xp38
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To: Squawk 8888; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Ouch! Thanks Squawk 8888. R.I.P. to a giant. Three-list ping, four with an extra to APoD.


17 posted on 01/02/2014 8:57:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

When you got nothing else, just call it a big bang.... everything out of nothing.

There’s no possible way of explaining what everything was even one second before the ‘big bang’.


18 posted on 01/02/2014 9:45:04 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: fishtank

Nice picture, oh, and the TV is nice too.


19 posted on 01/03/2014 4:27:23 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: fishtank; NonValueAdded; buffaloguy; Squawk 8888; maxwellsmart_agent; Moonman62; JoeFromSidney; ...
I never believed the Big Bang theory, it just didn't feel right to me.

A black hole is a region of spacetime from which gravity prevents anything, including light, from escaping. The existence of black holes allows the compression of all matter into one huge singularity, which allows the Big Bang theory to be a possible truth.

However, the black hole model has been called into doubt by none other than Stephen Hawking, who now says that matter can escape from ‘black’ holes. If Black Holes aren't truly excape-proof, how is the formation of the exploding massive singularity possible?

20 posted on 01/28/2014 5:09:24 PM PST by exodus
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