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WUWT and WeatherBell help with a weather forecasting request from ice-trapped ship in Antarctica
Watts Up With That ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/01/2014 10:40:01 AM PST by Vince Ferrer

Today, while shopping at lunchtime for some last minute year end supplies, I got one of the strangest cell-phone calls ever. It was from my friend John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel and Chief meteorologist at KUSI-TV in San Diego. He was calling via cell phone from his car, and he was on his way into the TV station early.

He started off by saying, “Anthony, we have a really strange situation here”.

Then to my surprise, he relayed a conversation he had just had; a person on the Akademik Shokalskiy had reached out, because they didn’t have adequate weather data on-board. At first, I thought John was pulling my leg, but then as he gave more details, I realized he was serious.

What had happened was that the US Coast Guard had received a message from the ship, requesting weather and wind information for Antarctica. That got relayed to someone at the Scripps oceanographic Institute in San Diego, and it went to John’s weekend KUSI meteorologist Dave Scott. Dave had worked with a scientist who is now on the US Coast Guard IceBreaker Polar Star, and they had logged the request for weather for forecast data from Akademik Shokalskiy. That’s how all this got started.

The message was that they needed better weather information on the ship than they had, specifically about wind and how it might affect the breakup of sea ice. John asked me to gather everything I had on the area and send it, and also to help him contact Joe D’Aleo of WeatherBell Analytics, because somehow John’s cellphone had gotten stuck into some sort of “private caller” mode and Joe wasn’t answering his phone due to how the incoming call looked.

My first thought was that no matter how much we’ve been criticizing the expedition for its silliness, that if such a request had reached all the way from Antarctica to me, I’d do everything I could to help.

I told John “give me 15 minutes”, which was about the time I’d need to get out of COSTCO and get back to my office and send along some things I knew would help.

I immediately called Joe D’Aleo at WeatherBell, who was as incredulous as I at the request, and asked him to call John Coleman right away. I explained to him that we had to remember that we were dealing with a Russian ship, not a military ship, but a charter vessel and they likely didn’t have all the tools that American meteorologists had and may not even know where to look for better data. I also pointed out that the Australian scientists on-board were climatologists, and not operational weather forecasters, and finding this sort of weather data probably wasn’t in their skill set.

Joe started working from the WeatherBell end, I finished my shopping and headed back to the office. As I drove, I started thinking about the situation with the ship there. They had wind compressing the ice into shore, with the Akademik Shokalskiy in the middle, and the wind wasn’t changing. They needed a wind shift in order to ease the pressure on the ice but they had no idea when that might happen. It was a waiting game, and as we know, the longer a ship remains trapped in sea ice, the greater its chances of having a hull breach due to the pressure.

I knew just what to send, because it was something that had been discussed several times by commenters on WUWT.

When I got back to the office, I no more than pulled up the bookmark and press send on the email with a brief description of the operational weather data model that covered the region and John Coleman was on the phone again. He asked me to talk to Dave Scott and explain what I had just sent over. I called Dave immediately and relayed the email.

I sent a live link that provided this image of Antarctica, and I noted in a Tweet about the same time:

Just had a request for Antarctic wind and FC data come up via Scripps from #spiritofmawson ship. KUSI, WeatherBell, WUWT all happy to help.

Dave listened intently to my explanation and then thanked me saying “this is exactly what we need”. I then started to do some research into the extensive library of operational forecast products put together by our friend Dr. Ryan Maue of WeatherBell which can be seen at http://models.weatherbell.com/ About that same time I get a new email from Joe D’Aleo, and he had sorted out the maps needed and had sent an email to John, Dave, and I.

In a couple of minutes John Coleman was back on the phone to me, he wanted my assessment of the maps. I had looked at what was happening and saw what I thought might be an opening in 7-8 days based on the forecast graphics from WeatherBell, where the winds would shift to offshore in the area where Akademik Shokalskiy was stuck. Like we discussed in the WUWT post yesterday Polynyas are very important for marine life and cooling the oceans I had hoped that a coastal polyna might open up near the ship. We also discussed the possibility of a low pressure system passing nearby that might help break up the ice. I didn’t express much hope for that.

The problem is that they are in a catch-22 now, they need strong offshore winds to help blow the sea ice out to open water, but at the same time they need calm or light winds for a safe helicopter rescue.

John Coleman and Dave Scott put together a video news story which ran on the KUSI 6PM News tonight. I was interviewed for the story, and you can watch it here: http://www.kusi.com/video?clipId=9686594&autostart=true

Watching the wind is the key to the way out of the situation the Akademik Shokalskiy is in. This near real-time wind model is worth watching, and it updates every three hours with new observations, click on the image to start it.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=144.30,-66.68,3000

Note the green circle marker, which is the approximate location the Akademik Shokalskiy is at. Winds are running parallel to the coast, and pushing ice up against the edge of the Commonwealth Bay.

Despite the irony and folly of the situation, I’m sure readers will join me in the hope that everyone makes it off the ship safely, whether it is by helicopter or by the ship being freed from the ice.


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The irony level has now gone to 11. Not only is a "climate change" researcher and fellow travellors stuck in ice in the summer, but they had to reach out to the climate heretics to get accurate weather data. (Also means they didn't have accurate weather data all along, this was a faith based voyage)
1 posted on 01/01/2014 10:40:01 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Note the green circle marker, which is the approximate location the Akademik Shokalskiy is at.

I'm not finding the green circle marker?

2 posted on 01/01/2014 10:49:27 AM PST by fso301
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To: Vince Ferrer
I also pointed out that the Australian scientists on-board were climatologists, and not operational weather forecasters, and finding this sort of weather data probably wasn’t in their skill set.

Pretty much says it all.

3 posted on 01/01/2014 10:49:56 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Vince Ferrer; zot; 2ndDivisionVet; NYer

Vince, Thank you for the post. I remember when John Coleman was the “weatherman” for WBKB TV, channel 7 in Chicago back in the 60s and 70s.

And it is nice to know that the ‘globull warming folks’ have to call a real meteorologist to find out about the weather. It shows that, bottom line, they don’t have ‘faith’ in their globull warming religion.


4 posted on 01/01/2014 10:50:32 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Wind piling up sea ice would seem to be a no brainer. The “leaders” of the expedition may be that stupid as to overlook it in their rush to go “prove” their equally short-sighted ideas... But what about the master of the vessel? Was he/she not experienced in navigating these waters? I realize wind and weather are unpredictable, but this seems like the let themselves get into a bad situation.


5 posted on 01/01/2014 10:51:57 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I can’t figure out where the ship is on that map. However, that is an amazing and mesmerizing map. I have never seen one of those before. It is remarkable and interesting.


6 posted on 01/01/2014 10:53:26 AM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

They were stupid to sail into the ice field without taking the wind into consideration.


7 posted on 01/01/2014 10:55:14 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the glow-bull warming ping. This shows (again) that these “scientists” don’t know what they are doing.


8 posted on 01/01/2014 11:00:12 AM PST by zot
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To: GreyFriar
It shows that, bottom line, they don’t have ‘faith’ in their globull warming religion.

Oh they had faith, that's why they went on a pilgrimage without charts and got stuck. Might be having a crisis of faith right about now though.

9 posted on 01/01/2014 11:13:23 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: metesky

Entertainment ping.


10 posted on 01/01/2014 11:14:07 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Vince Ferrer
... this was a faith based voyage)

They probably believed their computer models, and assumed that the ice had all melted away.

11 posted on 01/01/2014 11:33:00 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Have an American nuclear sub surface by them and get them out. The ultimate irony.


12 posted on 01/01/2014 11:35:27 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Vince Ferrer

Al Gore should be forced to pay every last time of the rescue effort from the proceeds of his absurd, fear-mongering film.


13 posted on 01/01/2014 11:39:32 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’m not a meteorologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. My forecast for Antarctica is that it will be cold and the wind will blow.
I’m not a Ship Captain, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. If the ice starts breaking up and there’s a path to open water, start the engines and go.
Where’s my money?


14 posted on 01/01/2014 11:41:07 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They were stupid to sail into the ice field without taking the wind into consideration.

...and no way of finding out, apparently.

15 posted on 01/01/2014 11:43:16 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Vince Ferrer

What does Joe Bastardi have to say about this nonsense?


16 posted on 01/01/2014 11:44:52 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Vince Ferrer

Probably not much of a ‘crisis of faith’ as I’m guessing that these folks are “true believers.” Nothing will cause them to ‘lose faith’, just like the American Communists who followed Stalin, no matter how much he changed his position on what was good or bad. If Stalin said ‘this is truth’ they blindly obeyed.


17 posted on 01/01/2014 12:15:16 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: blueunicorn6
I’m not a meteorologist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

You are overqualified for this scientific mission.

18 posted on 01/01/2014 12:23:51 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: SamAdams76
What does Joe Bastardi have to say about this nonsense?

I'll make a guess...they're "stuck on stupid"....

19 posted on 01/01/2014 12:26:41 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

Joe is already greatly enjoying the irony of the situation on twitter.


20 posted on 01/01/2014 12:29:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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