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Ted Cruz says he’s hired lawyers to renounce Canadian citizenship
Dallas News ^ | 12-28-13 | Todd J. Gillman

Posted on 12/30/2013 2:48:37 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

WASHINGTON — The junior senator from Texas is still a Canadian. But he’s working on it, eh?

Born in Alberta 43 years ago last Sunday, Sen. Ted Cruz was unaware of his dual nationality until The Dallas Morning News explored the issue in August.

Since then, he said in a recent interview, “I have retained counsel that is preparing the paperwork to renounce the citizenship.”

He expects to complete the process in 2014. That time frame jibes with predictions from Canadian legal experts.

He doesn’t dispute holding dual citizenship. “Not at this point,” he said.

When Cruz was born, his parents were living in the Canadian oil patch in Calgary. His mother is a native-born American. His father, a Cuban émigré who later became a naturalized American, was still a Cuban citizen.

Under U.S. law, a child born with even one American parent is automatically entitled to citizenship, even if the birth takes place outside the country. Canada, like the United States, also confers automatic citizenship to anyone born on its soil, regardless of the parents’ nationalities.

That revelation by The News startled Cruz and his parents.

His mother, he said, had understood that it would have taken an affirmative act to claim Canadian citizenship, and that’s what she’d told him as a child.

“There was no reason to retain counsel to analyze Canadian law, because it wasn’t relevant to anything I was doing,” he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016electionbias; certifigate; citizenship; cruz2016; dnctalkingpoints; doublestandard; dualcitizenship; gettedcruz; gope; obamatruthfile; pravdamedia; president; tedcruz
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1 posted on 12/30/2013 2:48:37 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Very interesting....


2 posted on 12/30/2013 2:58:39 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Yup, I think he may run for the corner office in DC. :-)


3 posted on 12/30/2013 3:02:33 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Cruz ‘16! Accept no imitations.


4 posted on 12/30/2013 3:04:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

A lot of people would walk over hot coals to ensure he got elected.


5 posted on 12/30/2013 3:10:12 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The definition of ‘natural born’ meant historically to be born of a father who was a citizen who was married to a citizen. This was created by the actions of John Jay to General George Washington for the purpose of ensuring allegiance and duty to the soon to be new nation of the United States.

Since the 14th Amendment was passed the notion of ‘natural born citizen’ versus citizen at birth has been muddled. Until Obama the issue has never been litigated. There were reservations and claims that Chester Garfield was not eligible because one of his parents may have been a Canadian citizen when he born but nothing came of it.

As for the place of birth, President Madison was asked if ‘natural born’ applied to citizen parents who were in transit on ship or residing abroad on business or under diplomatic commission. Madison’s response was yes ‘natural born’ applied to such births because the domicile was still in the United States, its territories or possessions.

It is important to understand the difference between ‘domicile’ and ‘residency’.

I can reside in Paris but maintain my domicile in Seattle. And domicile may be a frame of mind in that my residency in Paris is to me only a temporary arrangement whereas my allegiance remains to the USA.

In law frequently a ‘domicile’ must be evidenced by a postal address.

Some will maintain a ‘domicile’ in certain locations such as Monaco for tax purposes yet they ‘reside’ say in London.

Ted Cruz does not fit the historical definition of ‘natural born’ but neither does Obama. But resolutions passed in the US Senate on behalf of McCain for the 2008 presidential election coupled with the fact that Obama’s claimed father was never a citizen (not to mention that Obama may not even have been born in the USA) have cleared the way for Cruz to be President.

While working and residing in Canada Ted’s mother maintained her ‘domicile’ in the US because she never intended to pledge allegiance to Canada. Her residency there was only for purposes of work.

But this will not stop the democrats from coming after Ted on the issue.

And with immigration amnesty, there will not be a Republican president for a generation at least so it won’t matter in any event.


6 posted on 12/30/2013 3:21:39 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If he were a democRAT who had been born in Kenya the media wouldn’t care.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 3:25:07 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
SenTedCruz
E Pluribus Unum
my E Pluribus Unum
8 posted on 12/30/2013 3:32:13 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mia San Mia)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

HE can still run for president — if a Kenyan born child can move around the world and visit other foreign nations on a British passport and change their name at will...get elected through voter fraud - then it’s an open house at this point!

oh — and then claim on race over the other to promote himself - Cruz can do that to!

See - it’s all about freedom - basically unhinged no rules freedom!!!

(sarc/)


9 posted on 12/30/2013 3:38:41 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
These cases where people hold citizenship without ever having any intention of being a citizen are pretty strange, but not uncommon. It happens all the time with the children of Canadian hockey players who live and work in the U.S. Hockey legend Bobby Hull was living in the U.S. when his kids were born. They were Canadian citizens because their parents were both Canadians, and U.S. citizens because of their place of birth. This led to an interesting amateur career dilemma for his son Brett Hull, who had the option of playing for either country's national team in the junior world championships and later in the Olympics.
10 posted on 12/30/2013 4:22:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

right the current pretender was born to a whore in Kenya and was a British crown citizen who became an Indonesian citizen.....and went to schools only Muslims could go to.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 4:25:09 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It’s funny how a media can find Ted Cruz has dual citizenship, but cannot explain Obama having a Connecticut Social Security number.

Funny they cannot find out if Obama had a foreign Student label during his college days. Can’t even find out his grades or one student who remembers him at one college.

In America we have a Constitution that guarantees a Free Press, but we do not have a Free Press, we have a propaganda outlet as bad as the one in Nazi Germany.


12 posted on 12/30/2013 4:36:43 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Hostage
Chester Garfield

Chester A. Arthur.

13 posted on 12/30/2013 4:43:11 AM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Hostage
The definition of ‘natural born’ meant historically to be born of a father who was a citizen who was married to a citizen.

To be fair, in the USA until the early 20th century, a woman by definition could not have different citizenship from that of her husband. A wife's citizenship directly tracked her husbands.

To illustrate how strange this was, my great-grandfather was an immigrant from Galicia in Eastern Europe. When he came to the USA and married my great-grandmother (a natural born American citizen), she automatically became a citizen of his nation and *lost* her American citizenship. At this point, she no longer had the right to vote, etc. She became American again later when my great-grandfather himself became naturalized.

When my grandfather told me this, I initially didn't believe it, but my research into the law of the era confirmed that this is how it would have happened.

My point is, historically, the wife's birth citizenship meant nothing.

14 posted on 12/30/2013 4:44:20 AM PST by billakay
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To: billakay

Correct. I have read some historical references that said citizenship pre-eminently followed the father, and it was NEVER intended that citizenship would descend to someone Who’s father was not a citizen.


15 posted on 12/30/2013 4:55:32 AM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: Procyon

Thanks for the correction. It’s early and the fingers fly on the keyboard faster than the thoughts assemble.

Thanks again.


16 posted on 12/30/2013 5:00:16 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: billakay

> “To be fair, in the USA until the early 20th century, a woman by definition could not have different citizenship from that of her husband. A wife’s citizenship directly tracked her husbands.”

That is exactly true, thus why I constructed the sentence the way it was written, as a redundant phrase.


17 posted on 12/30/2013 5:03:24 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Hostage wrote: “Until Obama the issue has never been litigated.”

Uh...it still hasn’t.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 5:41:32 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Hostage
Ted Cruz does not fit the historical definition of ‘natural born’ but neither does Obama. But resolutions passed in the US Senate on behalf of McCain for the 2008 presidential election coupled with the fact that Obama’s claimed father was never a citizen (not to mention that Obama may not even have been born in the USA) have cleared the way for Cruz to be President.

The Constitution be damned, eh?

19 posted on 12/30/2013 6:01:22 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Vaquero
“right the current pretender was born to a whore in Kenya and was a British crown citizen who became an Indonesian citizen.....and went to schools only Muslims could go to.”
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Accurately stated IMO
20 posted on 12/30/2013 6:15:48 AM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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