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1 posted on 12/27/2013 3:01:19 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Supposed to die....wow....such loving words...


2 posted on 12/27/2013 3:02:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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bkmk, this one is going to be REAL good!


4 posted on 12/27/2013 3:06:56 AM PST by j.argese (Not anymore!)
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Current expectation: Wait for the terminally ill to die.
Obamacare Plan A: Ration healthcare so that the elderly decline faster.
Obamacare Plan B: Give 'em the needle. They cost too much.
6 posted on 12/27/2013 3:08:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Draining?


7 posted on 12/27/2013 3:09:40 AM PST by stanne
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How dare they survive, they should be dead as intended! Compassionate progressives for the people. We could use(waste) this money on the living, more entitlements to improve thier lives rather than wasting it on terminally ill cnacer patients that are suppose to die but end up living. Oh the humanity


8 posted on 12/27/2013 3:10:24 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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My wife and I have dealt with several home deaths....
It ain't fer sissies but is far more noble than death houses.... unless the patient is oblivious to the world around them....

Family should die at home if at all possible.... its very hard but you gain something by standing by your duty and commitment to a parent or other family member or relative or close friend

Hospice was a Godsend

Can't say one thing bad about the concept.

But do be careful about home healthcare if you can afford it

Basically 8-10,000/month for round the clock....keep close eye on dope and if you are lead family member...you gather it for hospice at death

Many caregivers take the work just to glom the dope....it can be a 10000 dollar windfall for them....watch em

Watch yer goods too

We had one wonderful to my mother but she stole the dope at the end and Hospice burned her up believe me...they knew too

Helps to have a lot of family nearby but you learn quick some family are asswipes....lazy and self centered and have no problem letting an alpha relative do it all

13 posted on 12/27/2013 3:24:34 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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Hospices = compassion we can’t afford!


16 posted on 12/27/2013 3:39:53 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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The average survival in an inpatient hospice is several DAYS. Medicare pays for six MONTHS.

Referrals are made much, much too late in the vast majority of cases.


20 posted on 12/27/2013 3:50:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Odungo’s blue pill


22 posted on 12/27/2013 3:51:05 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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We called hospice for my mother on 3rd recommendation by doctor to do so. She died in her bed at home the night they first came to see her.

We called hospice for my uncle after several recommendations by doctor, he died less than 1 week after they enrolled him. The hospital pushed him out the door because they did not want him to be there when he died. Believe it was the doctor, not the hospital. He had very widespread cancer. His condition was clearly terminal.

I have mixed emotions about hospice and very bad feelings about most nursing homes. They are the last resort options.

Care of elderly at home by family is the best option if it is possible. No one, will care for family like family.


31 posted on 12/27/2013 4:01:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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Ever hear of the Brompton Cocktail---once used in hospices to "help" the terminally ill?

<><> "The English Patient" character David Caravaggio, the Canadian spy, uses the cocktail as a method to obtain information from the English patient.

<><> Larry Flynt's memoir, "An Unseemly Man," describes the Brompton Cocktail as the only relief from his incredible pain.

The Brompton cocktail is named after the Royal Brompton Hospital in London, England, where it was invented in the late 1920s for patients with tuberculosis. While its use has been rare in the 21st century, it is not entirely unheard of today. It was far more common in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Some specifications for variants of Brompton Mixture call for methadone, hydromorphone, diamorphine (heroin), or other strong opioids in the place of morphine; diphenhydramine or tincture of cannabis in place of the chlorpromazine; and/or methamphetamine, amphetamine, dextroamphetamine, co-phenylcaine, methylphenidate or other stimulants in the place of cocaine.

The original recipe for Brompton Mixture also calls for chloroform, cherry syrup to help mask the bitter taste of some of the components, and distilled water in some quantity to dilute the chloroform (hence, chloroform water) and/or to add volume to allow for more precise titration of doses.

37 posted on 12/27/2013 4:08:57 AM PST by Liz
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I don’t know if it’s cheaper or more expensive but my sister is in “hospice care in Mo. She is not in an institution but has around the clock care in her home.

It started 3 weeks ago and she is not expected to recover, she has liver cancer and all chemo and radiation therapy stopped about a month ago.

When hospice care first started, the doc told her that she had “days” left, not “weeks”.


46 posted on 12/27/2013 4:40:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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You get more of what you pay more for.


49 posted on 12/27/2013 4:53:11 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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I am pretty familiar with Hospice locally and I only know of one patient who was released, and he died a month later.

I do know of a couple who asked to go home to die and the family took them, but hospice visited.

Coming from the Washington Post gives me the idea this story is BS.


52 posted on 12/27/2013 5:00:07 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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When you distribute resources according to need, people get clever in demonstrating need, and hiding ability.


53 posted on 12/27/2013 5:04:40 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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My mother was in hospice when she died here in our home. Thank God for them, they were a blessing.


61 posted on 12/27/2013 7:07:15 AM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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Hospice isn’t the issue. The issue is fraud.

I can’t believe these liberals are advocating removing humane end of life care.


64 posted on 12/27/2013 7:20:38 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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Interesting thread. How much money taken from your pay has been poured down the “healthcare” rathole. Accountability for your own health? Your own care? Examining finances for competing services and doctors fees ? Examining billing to make sure you get what you paid for? Are the services/equipment/tests really needed? Are health savings accounts encouraged?

How did we get to a $22 trillion prescription drug liability and an $88 trillion medicare liability?

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Who FORCED this on us?

Physical health, mental health, financial health RESPONSIBILITY BUMP!


71 posted on 12/27/2013 8:17:08 AM PST by PGalt
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This is what the whole “Right to Die” movement really was all about...it really was about “Duty to Die.”


73 posted on 12/27/2013 8:20:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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Don’t do hospice......path to death. Let yourself die naturally. Offer up the pain.


79 posted on 12/27/2013 8:54:42 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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