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Why Bankers Created the Fed 100 Years Ago
The Market Oracle, UK ^ | 23 December, 2013 | Christopher_Westley

Posted on 12/24/2013 1:45:23 PM PST by Errant

The Democratic Party gained prominence in the first half of the nineteenth century as being the party that opposed the Second Bank of the United States. In the process, it tapped into an anti-state sentiment that proved so strong that we wouldn't see another like it until the next century.

Its adversaries were Whig politicians who defended the bank and its ability to grow the government and their own personal fortunes at the same time. They were, in fact, quite open about these arrangements. It was considered standard-operating procedure for Whig representatives to receive monetary compensation for their support of the Bank when leaving Congress. The Whig Daniel Webster even expected annual payments while in Congress. Once he complained to the Bank of the United States President Nicholas Biddle, “I believe my retainer has not been renewed or refreshed as usual. If it be wished that my relation to the Bank should be continued, it may be well to send me my usual retainer.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banking; collapse; fed; inflation
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
They only pay manufacturing costs to the treasury then lend it out at a rate that will cause people to lose the value of their labor at a rate of 3% per year (in a good year).

The Fed hardly lends any money out.

The IRS.

They force you to hold currency? Sounds like the IRS makes you a slave, not the Fed.

Not according to FDR, he took everyone's real currency.

FDR is forcing you to hold currency? LOL!

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

341 posted on 12/31/2013 4:15:26 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Ha! The Great Depression proves you wrong.

No it doesn't.

You're the one that doesn't know how anything works.

Better than you.

On every point you say "Why" and "How".

It's true. I want you to prove your claims.

All this is new to you isn't it?

Yes, your ignorance is new to me.

342 posted on 12/31/2013 4:17:29 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

How does their lending take away $1000 of your labor?


343 posted on 12/31/2013 4:19:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The Fed was created to avert wild swings. We continue to have wild swings.

Swings from 1913-2013 are much milder than swings from 1813-1913.

344 posted on 12/31/2013 4:20:47 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Swings from 1913-2013 are much milder than swings from 1813-1913.

Untrue. The Fed does nothing but protect stupid robotic thieving bankers. The Fed used to be more strict but now it is anything goes for the too_big_to_fail Fed connected banksters. The Fed will bail them out and next time around I predict it will be via demanding payment from the FedGov on outstanding debt the Fed holds. The USG will be told to sell off some assets,  national parks and lands to satisfy this demand.

345 posted on 12/31/2013 4:34:13 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Fed hardly lends any money out.

Still clinging to the claim that there are no banks in the Fed? lol

They force you to hold currency? Sounds like the IRS makes you a slave, not the Fed.

The IRS collects money for the government that then builds jet fighters for my protection, builds roads I can drive on, etc. The Fed provides no service to me. I lose 3% per year for nothing.

FDR is forcing you to hold currency? LOL!

He set the precedent. Hold the Fed's fiat currency or face the wrong end of the rifle barrel.


346 posted on 12/31/2013 4:41:44 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
It's true. I want you to prove your claims.

No, it's because you don't know anything. You think there are no banks in the Fed.

347 posted on 12/31/2013 4:43:36 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
How does their lending take away $1000 of your labor?

Inflation. Inflation means currency buys less over time. Like I said you don't understand even the most basic concepts.

348 posted on 12/31/2013 5:07:18 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Swings from 1913-2013 are much milder than swings from 1813-1913.

The Great Depression proves you wrong.

349 posted on 12/31/2013 5:08:12 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The Fed provides no service to me. I lose 3% per year for nothing.

That's awful! You should hold less currency.

The Fed doesn't get the 3% you claim to lose. Sorry.

350 posted on 12/31/2013 7:58:40 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
It's true. I want you to prove your claims.

No, it's because you don't know anything.

I know that you continue to make claims with no proof.

You think there are no banks in the Fed.

The Federal Reserve is a bank.

351 posted on 12/31/2013 8:00:58 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Swings from 1913-2013 are much milder than swings from 1813-1913.

The Great Depression proves you wrong.

List of recessions in the United States

352 posted on 12/31/2013 8:50:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Fed doesn't get the 3% you claim to lose. Sorry.

They actually get a lot more.

353 posted on 01/01/2014 4:03:13 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The Federal Reserve is a bank.

Contradicting yourself again. lol

354 posted on 01/01/2014 4:04:30 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The Fed doesn't get the 3% you claim to lose. Sorry.

They actually get a lot more.

You just can't explain how.

355 posted on 01/01/2014 4:08:52 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The Federal Reserve is a bank.

Contradicting yourself again. lol

Nope. The Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of the US is a bank.

356 posted on 01/01/2014 4:10:04 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Partisan Gunslinger
"The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It was created on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907. Over time, the roles and responsibilities of the Federal Reserve System have expanded and its structure has evolved.[3][8] Events such as the Great Depression were major factors leading to changes in the system...

In its role as the central bank of the United States, the Fed serves as a banker's bank and as the government's bank. As the banker's bank, it helps to assure the safety and efficiency of the payments system. As the government's bank, or fiscal agent, the Fed processes a variety of financial transactions involving trillions of dollars. Just as an individual might keep an account at a bank, the U.S. Treasury keeps a checking account with the Federal Reserve, through which incoming federal tax deposits and outgoing government payments are handled. As part of this service relationship, the Fed sells and redeems U.S. government securities such as savings bonds and Treasury bills, notes and bonds. It also issues the nation's coin and paper currency. The U.S. Treasury, through its Bureau of the Mint and Bureau of Engraving and Printing, actually produces the nation's cash supply and, in effect, sells the paper currency to the Federal Reserve Banks at manufacturing cost, and the coins at face value. The Federal Reserve Banks then distribute it to other financial institutions in various ways.[35] During the Fiscal Year 2008, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing delivered 7.7 billion notes at an average cost of 6.4 cents per note."

Source: Wikipedia

357 posted on 01/01/2014 4:16:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

We lost 27% of GDP during the Great Depression. The most severe lost of GDP for us ever.


358 posted on 01/01/2014 4:21:02 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You just can't explain how.

They lend at a rate of a target 3% inflation. They're are the ones profiting from the loss of value of currency in the banks.

359 posted on 01/01/2014 4:23:56 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Nope. The Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of the US is a bank.

A bank that doesn't lend, as you said in post 341. lol

360 posted on 01/01/2014 4:25:50 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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