Posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai
Israeli officials reacted with bitter scorn to a Christmas message from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in which he called Jesus a Palestinian and suggested Israel was to blame for the exodus of Christians from the Holy Land.
“He should have read the Gospel before uttering such offensive nonsense, but we will forgive him because he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel on Monday. Abbas’s statement is an “outrageous rewriting of Christian history,” according to Palmor.
Earlier on Monday, Abbas published a lengthy Christmas greeting, calling Jesus “a Palestinian messenger who would become a guiding light for millions around the world.” Although he expressed his commitment to the peace negotiations with Israel, he expressed harsh criticism of Israeli policies, including an accusation that Jerusalem is responsible for the plight of Christians in the Holy Land. …
(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...
It’s this way ... you’ve got a spectrum of political parties ... which range from the left side of the spectrum to the right side.
NOW ... having said that, and in connection with the two major parties that the US has ... it’s only an idiot who wouldn’t know that the Democrat Party is on the left of the political spectrum and that the Republican Party is on the right side of that same political spectrum.
AND ... if you can’t tell that and don’t know that, I simply can’t help you in any way — because I’ve never been good at helping idiots.
In the same fashion — except that Israel has more parties that actually play in the elections — they’ve also got a range in their political spectrum, and again, it’s only idiots and some “politician ideologues” who don’t know that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Likud is on the right side of the political spectrum.
The same thing goes here, too ... in that I don’t do well helping idiots.
I’m still trying to figure out what the relevance of the Jerusalem Post is. Both it and the Jewish Telegraphic Agency were founded by Jacob Landau, a left-leaning journalist born in Austria.
The League of Nations announced that the Jews wanted to call their homeland “Israel” long before WWII started. The Hebrew name of what became the Jewish Agency for “Palestine” (founded in 1908) was “HaMisrad HaEretz Yisraeli”. The Mandate (named by the British, not the LON) stated that provision be made for the Jews to “reconstitute (their) homeland”, not under the name of “Palestine”.
You just called most of the board “idiot(s)”, because it’s an infinitesimal number of posters that believe that the GOP is on the right side of the US political spectrum, especially since they have been working on the left side of said spectrum for many years.
Same applies with Likud, but they were like that from their beginning.
Did you get lost on the way to a different forum?
Where I grew up Jesus was the “King of the Jews”
and there were never any Palestinian Arab homeland.
There is one now Jordan. but that is another story.
Why believe Abbas,he can’t even remember all his alias’s.
His only talent is stealing aid meant for his population like Arafat did.
Independence Day 1948
“The Most Crowded Hours in... History”
http://www.historama.com/online-resources/articles/israel/story_israel_first_independence_day_14_may_1948.html
And then came the argument over the name of the State-to-be. One member requested the name “Judea”, but others pointed out that this Biblical name only referred to one region within the prospective state. Others proposed the name “Zion”, citing the benefit of the Jews in having the last word at the United Nations and other international forums since they would be voting at the end of the alphabetical list. But others argued that “Zion” was also the name of a hill, and that this might be confusing. Ben-Gurion suggested the name “Israel”, and at the last moment this name was approved.
Why Israel’s first leaders chose not to call the country ‘Palestine’ in Arabic
http://www.timesofisrael.com/leaders-grappled-over-arabic-name-for-fledgling-state/
Look at the Jewish officials reference to the new country - which had not been formed yet. They called It - the Jewish State.
Quoting ...
On May 14th Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion reads the proclamation of nationhood. Striking the speaker’s table for emphasis, he announced, “The name of our state shall be Israel.”
The American statement recognizing the new State of Israel bears President Truman’s last-minute handwritten changes. American recognition came shortly after midnight in Palestine, just minutes after the new nation was proclaimed.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/hst/h.htm
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The significance of the “Palestinian Post” (which is now called the Jerusalem Post) is that people of the day had no problem understanding why it was called the “Palestinian Post” - since the people there were already referred to as Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs.
I was taught he was Jesus the Nazarene.
My answer to idiots is simply, “If the shoe fits, wear it.”
You’ll have to determine if it fits ... LOL ...
Seems to fit you, if you think that the GOP is on the right. With all due respect.
I said “relevance”, not “significance”. What a newspaper magnate from Austria decides to call his newspapers is one thing and cannot be defined as another.
I may have sourced the Times of Israel in this thread, but that was due to the remarkable headline, not the overall slant of the publication.
The Zionists always intended to call the Jewish homeland “Israel”. It’s in their official Hebrew-language name. Ben Gurion did not come up with it on the spot.
The relevance is simple ... If I’m forming a new paper in the USA, maybe I’ll call it USA Today ... ummm, wait ... that name is taken. Okay, I could call it “The American Newspaper”. Maybe I might call it the “Washington Times (oops, that one is taken too).
Let me tell you what I won’t be calling it ... The Moscow Times, the USSR Chronicle, or Russian Daily ... LOL ...
Now, let’s go over to Israel today, and back a few years to before 1948 — and see what we call a paper. We definitely don’t call it “Israel Today” because there was no Israel there. We don’t call it the Mohammedan Times, because that narrows it down to just a segment of the population.
Well ... we call it The Palestine Post ... because there are Palestinian Jews there, there are Palestinian Arabs there, and the area is managed under the Palestine Mandate. What a novel idea! ... LOL ...
So I don’t care whether you are left, right or up-side-down — naming conventions come naturally to the subject matter at hand.
Of course, I do expect some people to be so dense that they will not understand this - but I don’t offer remedial help.
(Yes I know I am being picky)
Celebrating Christmas a little early, I see.
I was told some years ago that the majority of Jordianians are Palis, but I will take your word for it.
Well, the Bible says the children of Lot will be around in the end time (Psalm 83:8), and the country called Jordan is their historical homeland.
Thank-you for sharing. Merry Christmas!
there is no such thing as a Palestinian, and there never was
Actually, just like some people here are Southerners, or Midwesterners...that whole area was known as Palestine. So everyone in Israel, Lebanon, Syria, part of Jordan are "Palestinians" including Mary, Joseph, Moses etc.
What is a “Merry Christmas” to me, and a source for abundant laughter, is to hear an Israeli official say this with such Christian overtones oozing out of it ...
“He should have read the Gospel before uttering such offensive nonsense, but we will forgive him because he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel on Monday.
It was the — “he doesn’t know what he’s doing ...” that got me going ... :-) ...
God certainly does have a sense of humor!
Merry Christmas ...
No, it's a place. And if you were to move there...you could be a "Palestinian" too...
...even if you're Japanese.
That reminds me ... there are Israeli Arabs and there are Israeli Jews ... who are on equal footing in the nation of Israel.
I believe there are about ONE MILLION Israeli Arabs in the nation of Israel and that sort of dampens the nature of a Jewish State - and that population is not going to shrink away inside Israel - being equal citizens with Jews.
Now ... what would you call that segment ... something like “Palestinian Israelis” or maybe “Israeli Palestinians”. Perhaps they are Jewish Palestinians ... :-) ...
Well I guess another historian heard from.
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