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"... Japanese government knew radiation was being leaked and did not inform the U.S. Navy."
1 posted on 12/20/2013 11:27:34 AM PST by FR_addict
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what does that mean... ? The freaking plant went meltdown almost immediately and it was world wide news, how can anyone say they didnt know?


2 posted on 12/20/2013 11:30:20 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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>> “... Japanese government knew radiation was being leaked and did not inform the U.S. Navy.”

Hard to imagine the US didn’t know.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 11:32:34 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Think I would have been asking for a dosimeter before going ashore...


4 posted on 12/20/2013 11:35:07 AM PST by grobdriver
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I would think that the USN would have radiation detectors that were always “on”.


5 posted on 12/20/2013 11:35:12 AM PST by NathanR
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Something is strange here. The carries are designed to detect radiation and crew members were sampled.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 11:38:11 AM PST by TexasGator
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The Reagan is a nuclear-powered ship. It has hundreds of trained nucs in its engineering department, including a Chem/Radcon Division (or two) full of Engineering Laboratory Technicians. If the ship didn’t send some ELTs along with the other sailors to monitor radiation levels, then the command is negligent beyond imagination!


8 posted on 12/20/2013 11:40:04 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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“The officers and crew of the U.S.S. Reagan (CVN-76) and other vessels believed that it was safe to operate within the waters adjacent to the FNPP, without doing the kinds of research and testing that would have verified the problems known to the defendant TEPCO at the time.”

horse pucky. The US government and the US military have the responsibility to do our OWN testing for the safety of our OWN people. Not wait for some Japanese company to give them “test” information.

Our intel community knew what was happening, or should have. We have strategic assets to track radiation incidents. The US Navy has some of the best nuclear experts in the world...they didn’t know...or suspect.... bupkiss?

We should find out what stupid obamite State Department or Pentagon forkwad ordered those people into that situation so rapidly and incautiously, as if the US navy is the world’s 9-11 or meals on wheels. At a minimum our personnel should have been given iodine pills to protect their thyroids

and they should have been given the TRUTH and follow up care within days of our government CERTAINLY knowing full well what had happened and was happening, and what they had been exposed to.


9 posted on 12/20/2013 11:43:42 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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One of the few groupss trained to be around Nuclear power and energy is duh, the US Navy. It would seem this is in the realm of the 9/11 health claims.


10 posted on 12/20/2013 11:45:20 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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Japanese government knew radiation was being leaked and did not inform the U.S. Navy."

Are you suggesting our government and the Navy didn't know anything about the radiation?

11 posted on 12/20/2013 11:56:03 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Hard to imagine a U.S. Navy ship doesn’t have some kind of radiation detectors on it too.


14 posted on 12/20/2013 12:07:40 PM PST by DannyTN
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A nuclear powered super carrier doesn’t test its water for radioactive contamination? Pathetic.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 12:10:26 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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I wouldn’t worry. The U.S. has a stellar reputation of caring for it’s servicemen made ill by environmental factors concurrent to their duty. Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrom...uh, nevermind.


23 posted on 12/20/2013 12:27:48 PM PST by Wolfie
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Not to worry, Sailors. Paul Ryan and Patty Murray introduced a new bill today to help you. They are going to take some of your pay and give it to make-believe pig farmers. It’s called THE DEMOCRATS MAKE PIGS OF THEMSELVES BILL. But you will get VA care.....in a few years.


26 posted on 12/20/2013 12:47:17 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Japan had a software program called SPEEDI which it said would be used in the event of a problem at a nuclear power plant. SPEEDI would continuous track weather conditions and, in the event of a disaster, calculate the direction of the radioactive plume(s) released by the power plant and predict toxicity of the plumes (how radioactive they were). When Fukushima reactors failed, SPEEDI produced projections but Japan never released them to the public saying much later “We felt we didn’t want to.”

For that reason, many people in the vicinity of Fukushima didn’t know where to go when the explosions were occurring so they headed North-West in hopes that this would bring them out of the direction of the radioactive fallout. They basically camped there in garages and anywhere they could for few days before government officials showed up and made them move from the location because of high levels of radiation. They had unknowingly headed in the exact direction of the plume and basically camped in the fallout because they had zero information from the government.

This apparently is what happened for the aircraft carrier which headed into a radioactive plume. The carrier would be able to detect radiation once within the plume but would not have been able to know that they were heading strait into it. Once the carrier knew it was detecting fallout, which way to head to get out of it and how fast does a carrier move? They may have had a hard time getting out of it and it might have been slow. Then the carrier ordered personnel to scrub the deck without sufficient protective gear, telling them it was safe. This isn’t unusual in disasters because it isn’t really feasible to keep radioactive decontamination going in close quarters - suits for everybody, radiation training for everybody, decontamination stations for workers etc.

If Japan had shared SPEEDI data (if that had “felt like it”) then their population would have known where NOT to go, as would the carrier. It was the whole purpose of SPEEDI. This happens alot in nuke “events”, when it comes down to it, the “protections” nuclear power plant operators promise the public are inadequate and then when something happens, they are not used (e.g., the local prefectures all had iodine for children (thyroid protection) but they were ordered not to distribute it to the public when Fukushima went boom) because it means the nuclear power operators have failed and are liable. So they didn’t distribute SPEEDI Data (the data looked too “bad” and they didn’t want the public to “panic”) and they ordered affected areas not to distribute emergency iodine to the children (one mayor did it anyway, against direct orders). TEPCO/Japan may have been afraid that if locals saw how bad the plume was, nearby Tokyo might want to evacuate. So any available tools to warn the public are then kept from the public to avoid “panic.”
The carriers knew cone they were receiving radiation fallout but once the ship is coated with fallout, I don’t know how well their sensers would help them know where to go to get clean air (the sensors would still be reading radiation from the fallout adhered to the ship) and they would have a hard time knowing how severe it is - there were 31 isotopes, according to the IAEA released at Fukushima and testing for this stuff is not always instant. There never seems to be an alternative to telling innocent people that they need to go clean this or that area (eg., schoolyard in Japan or the deck of a carrier) and assuring them it won’t hurt them. It’s unknown how it will affect them, someone needs to do it and it’s not feasible to carry and train with the “right” equipment, and there’s always the concern the public will “panic.” They may have ordered the deck scrubbed to help their radiation equipment by removing background “noise” so they could work on getting out or staying out of the plume(s). What surprised me is I read that the contamination made it into their drinking water. Is it that ships process wash water (showers) and are not equipped to remove isotopes so it wound up as drinking water?


34 posted on 12/20/2013 1:02:11 PM PST by ransomnote
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Any time little barry can screw over Americans one way or another, he’ll do it. Count on it.


36 posted on 12/20/2013 1:16:53 PM PST by onedoug
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If the story’s true, the Navy didn’t do the protective measures.


38 posted on 12/20/2013 1:19:55 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Just in time for them to be medically retired and then find out their benefits were cut.


39 posted on 12/20/2013 1:38:20 PM PST by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE!

Just ask all the pro-nuclear puff heads here on FR.

They will tell you that not one person has died or gotten sick from Fukushima. They will even tell you that Radiation is good for you.


40 posted on 12/20/2013 1:52:55 PM PST by Revel
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I find it remarkably hard to believe our own navy did not do our own monitoring of the radiation levels. Why would we trust a foreign government?


51 posted on 12/20/2013 6:28:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Have not heard one word on television about this story,the gays can go jump,this is more of a story than duck callers


57 posted on 12/21/2013 5:24:48 AM PST by ballplayer
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