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Homeowner who shot dead drunk and disorientated car crash victim...WILL stand trial for murder
The Daily Mail Online ^ | December 20, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 12/20/2013 5:07:52 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Judge David Turfe said Detroit-area man, Theodore Wafer, made a 'bad choice' when he shot dead Renisha McBride through the screen of his front door in the early hours of November 2

Wafer, said he feared for his life and acted in self-defense but the judge rejected this argument Thursday

He will now stand trial for second-degree murder and manslaughter ....

Victim's family cried in court as the ruling was announced

Wafer, 54, called 911 around 4:30 a.m. and said he had shot someone who was banging on his door

Three hours earlier, McBride had crashed her car into a parked car in a residential neighborhood, about a half-mile away

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mcbride; renishamcbride; wafer
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1 posted on 12/20/2013 5:07:52 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

People were allowed to wear pictures of the dead girl on their clothing in the courtroom. Yeah, this guy will get a fair trial /sarc


2 posted on 12/20/2013 5:14:47 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This won’t end well.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 5:21:34 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

It already hasn’t ended well. Now someone gets to face the consequences of his own stupidity.


4 posted on 12/20/2013 5:28:36 AM PST by stormer
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To: Uncle Chip
There is enough blame for everyone here. I am not exonerating anybody, but three parties made serious errors in judgement.

Regarding the homeowner, Theodore Wafer. You are a man, how much can you fear a 19 year old girl banging on your door at 4am? She is banging on the door, maybe she even ripped the screen door off. Maybe you should take a few deep breaths before you open the door and discharge the gun in her chest. If you are worried that she is a decoy, call the cops and hold her at bay, you can always shoot her later. This man did not act responsibly and is guilty of some kind of negligence.

Regarding the deceased. 19 years old and you are driving with a blood alcohol level of .22? And smoking dope? Then, you walk away from an ambulance and the scene of an accident. Then you wander around for three hours. If you want to drink that much, don't get into a car, don't go anywhere. She must share some responsibility for her actions.

Regarding the parents. Why was your 19 year old that drunk? The drinking age in Michigan is 21. Why was she driving a car that drunk? This could just as easily have ended with her killing one or more people with her car. Was this the first time she was drinking and smoking dope?

Plenty of blame to go around here.

5 posted on 12/20/2013 5:29:53 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Uncle Chip
Testifying for the defense, firearms expert David Balash said Wednesday he believes the screen in the outer door was out of its frame before the shot was fired, a theory that suggests McBride may have knocked it out of place and raised Wafer's fears.

A photo of McBride's legs taken by police showed her left foot had broken through the sole of her boot.

So this crazy underage drunk was banging on this man's door so hard that she broke the door AND her boot. I would have been in fear of my life, too.

Alas, with our current Marxist INjustice system McBride is assuredly going to rot in prison. I hope he gets put into protective custody since word will get around that he killed one of Obama's daughters.

6 posted on 12/20/2013 5:31:30 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Whoops. Wafer is going to rot in prison.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 5:32:19 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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You are a man, how much can you fear a 19 year old girl banging on your door at 4am?

It's quite possible that she has a few Trayvons with her hiding in the bushes, ready to swarm in when you open the door.

8 posted on 12/20/2013 5:32:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Uncle Chip

What would be the motive behind shooting a dead drunk and a disoriented car crash victim?


9 posted on 12/20/2013 5:35:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: Uncle Chip

Why did he shoot her if she was already dead? ;)


10 posted on 12/20/2013 5:41:12 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Get ready for Travon part II

If Obama had a dead drunk sister, she would look like Renisha...


11 posted on 12/20/2013 5:42:07 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Uncle Chip

Based on what has been reported so far, it appears to me the guy took some bad/foolish decisions both before and after the incident:

1) He is reported to have shot her through a ‘screen door’. Most house entrances which have screen doors also have a 2nd more sturdy and secure door (especially in places like Detroit). That being the case, one must ask why he opened the ‘main’ door if he feared whomever was outside his house.

2) He did not call the police before he opened the main door and confronted/shot the woman.

3) He made a statement to the police in which he claimed that he “accidently” pulled the trigger. This does not comport with a self-defense claim. One does “accidently” defend oneself. This statement will be used against him.

4) In actuality, he should not have said anything at all - apart from possibly answering inquiries with the phrase “I was in fear for my life” - prior to talking to his attorney.

Based on what has been reported about this incident so far, I think there is a pretty good chance he will be convicted of involuntary manslaughter; although negligent homicide is probably a more appropriate charge.


12 posted on 12/20/2013 5:43:23 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Uncle Chip

The Mail will be happy to front this sad story, but I doubt they will give equal treatment to a story about a life saved by defensive use of a private firearm.


13 posted on 12/20/2013 5:43:36 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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Agree; no shortage of blame. For the life of me, if someone was banging on my door in the middle of the night, the last thing I’d do would be to open it. Why he didn’t just stay in the back of the house with his gun by his side is a mystery. If she managed to break the door down he could always shoot then. But to open the door??? All I can think is that he panicked.


14 posted on 12/20/2013 5:45:35 AM PST by Shannon
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...Sorry...

“...one doe NOT “accidently” defend oneself...”


15 posted on 12/20/2013 5:46:02 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: carriage_hill

I would have sought a plea bargain to get negligent homicide or manslaughter. He would have likely been out of jail in under 1 year.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 5:46:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Wafer would be in a better position if he claimed fear and self-defense from the beginning. He didn't. He told the police that the gun just went off.

He only began using the fear and self-defense argument a day or two later, after consulting with his attorney.

17 posted on 12/20/2013 5:47:08 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Uncle Chip

The English “disorientated” has always sounded ignorant to me. The American “disoriented” is far superior, one of the few examples of our improving upon our mother tongue.


18 posted on 12/20/2013 5:47:09 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: autumnraine

Haven’t you ever heard of the phrase “dead drunk”?


19 posted on 12/20/2013 5:50:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Hot Tabasco

Especially through a door.

Funny how that brought gales of laughter when Joe Biden said it, yet some seem to think it was just great in this case.


20 posted on 12/20/2013 5:59:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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