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1 posted on 12/20/2013 5:07:52 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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People were allowed to wear pictures of the dead girl on their clothing in the courtroom. Yeah, this guy will get a fair trial /sarc


2 posted on 12/20/2013 5:14:47 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This won’t end well.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 5:21:34 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Uncle Chip
There is enough blame for everyone here. I am not exonerating anybody, but three parties made serious errors in judgement.

Regarding the homeowner, Theodore Wafer. You are a man, how much can you fear a 19 year old girl banging on your door at 4am? She is banging on the door, maybe she even ripped the screen door off. Maybe you should take a few deep breaths before you open the door and discharge the gun in her chest. If you are worried that she is a decoy, call the cops and hold her at bay, you can always shoot her later. This man did not act responsibly and is guilty of some kind of negligence.

Regarding the deceased. 19 years old and you are driving with a blood alcohol level of .22? And smoking dope? Then, you walk away from an ambulance and the scene of an accident. Then you wander around for three hours. If you want to drink that much, don't get into a car, don't go anywhere. She must share some responsibility for her actions.

Regarding the parents. Why was your 19 year old that drunk? The drinking age in Michigan is 21. Why was she driving a car that drunk? This could just as easily have ended with her killing one or more people with her car. Was this the first time she was drinking and smoking dope?

Plenty of blame to go around here.

5 posted on 12/20/2013 5:29:53 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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Testifying for the defense, firearms expert David Balash said Wednesday he believes the screen in the outer door was out of its frame before the shot was fired, a theory that suggests McBride may have knocked it out of place and raised Wafer's fears.

A photo of McBride's legs taken by police showed her left foot had broken through the sole of her boot.

So this crazy underage drunk was banging on this man's door so hard that she broke the door AND her boot. I would have been in fear of my life, too.

Alas, with our current Marxist INjustice system McBride is assuredly going to rot in prison. I hope he gets put into protective custody since word will get around that he killed one of Obama's daughters.

6 posted on 12/20/2013 5:31:30 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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Whoops. Wafer is going to rot in prison.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 5:32:19 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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What would be the motive behind shooting a dead drunk and a disoriented car crash victim?


9 posted on 12/20/2013 5:35:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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Why did he shoot her if she was already dead? ;)


10 posted on 12/20/2013 5:41:12 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Get ready for Travon part II

If Obama had a dead drunk sister, she would look like Renisha...


11 posted on 12/20/2013 5:42:07 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Based on what has been reported so far, it appears to me the guy took some bad/foolish decisions both before and after the incident:

1) He is reported to have shot her through a ‘screen door’. Most house entrances which have screen doors also have a 2nd more sturdy and secure door (especially in places like Detroit). That being the case, one must ask why he opened the ‘main’ door if he feared whomever was outside his house.

2) He did not call the police before he opened the main door and confronted/shot the woman.

3) He made a statement to the police in which he claimed that he “accidently” pulled the trigger. This does not comport with a self-defense claim. One does “accidently” defend oneself. This statement will be used against him.

4) In actuality, he should not have said anything at all - apart from possibly answering inquiries with the phrase “I was in fear for my life” - prior to talking to his attorney.

Based on what has been reported about this incident so far, I think there is a pretty good chance he will be convicted of involuntary manslaughter; although negligent homicide is probably a more appropriate charge.


12 posted on 12/20/2013 5:43:23 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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The Mail will be happy to front this sad story, but I doubt they will give equal treatment to a story about a life saved by defensive use of a private firearm.


13 posted on 12/20/2013 5:43:36 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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Wafer would be in a better position if he claimed fear and self-defense from the beginning. He didn't. He told the police that the gun just went off.

He only began using the fear and self-defense argument a day or two later, after consulting with his attorney.

17 posted on 12/20/2013 5:47:08 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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The English “disorientated” has always sounded ignorant to me. The American “disoriented” is far superior, one of the few examples of our improving upon our mother tongue.


18 posted on 12/20/2013 5:47:09 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I would insist my attorney file countersuit that charges the drunk with suicide. The shooter in this instance probably saved lives.If not in the immediate context—in the near future.


23 posted on 12/20/2013 6:19:40 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Uncle Chip

Looks like everyone involved in this was wrong.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 6:44:27 AM PST by Ditter
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The judge said the defendant made a poor choice by bringing a gun to the door. EXCUSE ME???? At 4:30 in the morning, the defendant is wakened by the sound of his screen door being pounded on so forcefully that it nearly came off it’s hinges. And he’s not supposed to bring his gun to the door to see who’s attempting to breakdown it down!!!!!!!


33 posted on 12/20/2013 7:14:13 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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Well, according to the title, if the drunk was already dead, what harm was there?


39 posted on 12/20/2013 9:41:58 AM PST by Old Yeller
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