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Medical test surprises: What should you be told?
Fox News ^ | Dec 13, 2013 | AP

Posted on 12/17/2013 7:09:53 AM PST by Innovative

Sometimes, surprise findings can be life-saving, for example in the case of an athlete whose brain is scanned after a concussion, and radiologists spot a tumor, Hauser said.

Other times, nothing can be done. That same brain scan might show early signs of an incurable condition, Hauser said, and "this young person now needs to live with the knowledge that she may someday develop this neurologic disease."

Follow-up testing may do harm.

Doctors, researchers and direct-to-consumer companies alike should inform potential patients about the possibility of incidental findings before they undergo a medical test. They should clearly explain what will and won't be disclosed, so patients can make an informed decision about whether and how to proceed.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; doctors; healthcare; medicalcare; medicaltests; medicine; obamacare
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If there ever was a terrifying, but MUST READ article, this is the one. They are advocating that if you do tests for some condition and incidentally the doctors discover some other important condition -- they will decide whether or not to tell you about it, you have no right to know, so YOU can decide what YOU want to do, after discussing it with the doctor.

Welcome to Obamacare -- there are more and more medical guidelines along the lines of not treating you and not even telling you what the tests show.

Sounds like we better get copies not just the scan report, but the actual scan, and take it to another doctor, hoping that someone will tell you what it really shows.

1 posted on 12/17/2013 7:09:53 AM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

It is MALPRACTICE to withhold critical medical information!!!


2 posted on 12/17/2013 7:13:28 AM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry

Not if Obamacare requires it:

“A presidential advisory council said Thursday ... Thursday’s report notes that not every medical condition that can be found should be (told to the patient)...

I’d like to get a copy of this actual report


3 posted on 12/17/2013 7:18:18 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

“But Thursday’s report says that not every medical condition that can be found, should be — and there’s conflicting advice about how to disclose and manage incidental findings.”

http://www.crescent-news.com/health/2013/12/13/medical-test-surprises-what-should-you-be-told


4 posted on 12/17/2013 7:19:29 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: G Larry
It is MALPRACTICE to withhold critical medical information!!!

However, it is quickly becoming the 'law of the land'.

5 posted on 12/17/2013 7:20:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: Innovative

If you find out you have some condition, you might want to TREAT it!!! That would use up money that belongs to the government after they took it away from you at the barrel of a gun.


6 posted on 12/17/2013 7:20:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: G Larry

it is the patients information


7 posted on 12/17/2013 7:20:59 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: G Larry

It is MALPRACTICE to withhold critical medical information!!!


It was.............................


8 posted on 12/17/2013 7:20:59 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Innovative

No one has a greater right to information about me than I do. If my body has been central to the discovery of information, I have first rights to the information.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 7:23:02 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: ncpatriot
it is the patients information

HIPPA gives everybody access to your medical information EXCEPT you.

The laws Liberals pass always do the opposite of what they say they are going to do.

10 posted on 12/17/2013 7:24:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Innovative
Sounds like we better get copies not just the scan report, but the actual scan, and take it to another doctor, hoping that someone will tell you what it really shows.

But who owns that scan? Back in the days of paying for your own health care, you could say "I bought it, I own it, hand it over." Now with either government controlled insurance companies or even the government itself paying for your scan (and in Obama's plan government will be the only entity legally allowed to pay for health care), do you still have ownership of your test results? Or does the government own them? Will you need your local Russian hacker who stole your ID when you signed up for Obamacare to break into your account to steal your secret test results for you?

11 posted on 12/17/2013 7:25:30 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: Innovative; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Medical test surprises: What should you be told?

Give it to me straight, doc... I can take it.

Why am I wearing... a diaper?

The lower thoracic wrap, Mr. Bender... is to keep your condition from spreading.

What condition? And keep it from spreading... where?

It is keep your outbreak of Smallcox... from dropping down to give you Kneeasles and Toeolio.

12 posted on 12/17/2013 7:25:59 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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I found the actual report!!! — you have to click through multiple topics and pages at the following link.

http://bioethics.gov/node/3183


13 posted on 12/17/2013 7:26:23 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“HIPPA gives everybody access to your medical information EXCEPT you.

The laws Liberals pass always do the opposite of what they say they are going to do.”

Exactly. The name of the report is “Anticipate and Communicate: Ethical Management of Incidental and Secondary Findings in the Clinical, Research, and Direct-to-Consumer Contexts “

When in fact they are telling doctors to NOT tell you the findings.

http://bioethics.gov/node/3183


14 posted on 12/17/2013 7:30:58 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you find out you have some condition you might want to treat it

Or you might decide to stop spending so much time and money on being sick and take that world wide cruise.

15 posted on 12/17/2013 7:31:23 AM PST by grania
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To: KarlInOhio
Does the government own them?

The best possible answer is to pay for your own checkups.

16 posted on 12/17/2013 7:34:07 AM PST by grania
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To: G Larry

Good question.

A doctor could be sued for disclosing information or not disclosing information.

If I as a physician believe that disclosing the incidental finding of an incurable condition to a patient might do more harm than good and do not disclose it, I could be sued for denying the patient the opportunity to plan his remaining days.

On the other hand, if I disclose such information, and the patient were to go on to commit suicide, I could be sued by the family for contributing to the patient’s untimely death.

Now, most juries would exonerate the doctor, but only after scores of lawyers had “earned” inflated fees in discovery, depositions and trials. Tort reform? We don’t need no stinkin’ tort reform.

So the real question is do we follow the paternalistic model, pat the patient on the head and lie that “everything will be alright”, or follow the full-disclosure “shared responsibility” model, allowing patients with little understanding of science, biology, medicine or logic to make bad decisions?

Maybe it’s time for doctors to wear an “Ask Me About The Death Panel” button on their white coats.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 7:34:30 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Innovative

I found the actual report in pdf at the link:

http://bioethics.gov/sites/default/files/FINALAnticipateCommunicate_PCSBI_0.pdf

Recommend downloading it before it disappears.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 7:34:46 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: paterfamilias

“Maybe it’s time for doctors to wear an “Ask Me About The Death Panel” button on their white coats.”

This is exactly where it’s going — doctors will be compelled to withhold vital information from patients, to be able to participate and get paid by Obamacare.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 7:36:53 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

20 posted on 12/17/2013 7:37:15 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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