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MD Anderson Among Top Hospitals Excluded From Obamacare Coverage [UPDATED]
BioNews--Texas ^ | 9 December 2013 | Mike Nace

Posted on 12/11/2013 10:45:04 AM PST by ShadowAce

Just recently, the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center was announced as one of an elite group of six cancer research and treatment centers throughout the world who will participate in an ongoing collaborative effort to fast-track the advancement of cancer treatment development as part of a new GlaxoSmithKline initiative. It is just one in a series of many examples of how MD Anderson is the preeminent cancer research and treatment center in the United States, if not the world.

According to a new report in the Financial Times, new healthcare plans are being nudged by the statutes of the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare, so that they will exclude in-network coverage for patients to visit top cancer hospitals for advanced therapy — including MD Anderson — when the plans go into full effect next year.

Under the new healthcare plans, a cancer center like MD Anderson will not be included as part of the choices within patients’ covered networks. Instead, visiting MD Anderson for cancer treatment would be “out-of-network,” meaning that very little of the cost would be covered by insurance; most would come out of pocket.

According to the FT report, the shift by insurers to exclude coverage to top treatment centers has everything to do with the new statutes handed down by Obamacare, which seeks to balance costs through what critics see as rationing of care and limiting choices for patients:

“One of the biggest goals of ‘Obamacare’ was to make subsidized healthcare plans that are being sold on the new exchanges as affordable as possible, while also mandating that certain benefits, like maternity care, were covered and that people with pre-existing medical conditions could not be denied access.

Amid these new regulatory restrictions, says Tim Jost, a health policy expert, insurance companies have had to come up with new ways to cut the cost of their products. In this new era, limiting the availability of certain facilities that are seen as too expensive – in part because they may attract the sickest patients or offer the most cutting edge medical care – is seen as the best way to control costs.”

The Obama administration has moved aggressively to characterize this lack of coverage as the fault of insurance companies, and that Obamacare in an of itself has not dictated that top research and treatment centers explicitly be excluded from plans that conform to the law’s new rules, with an HHS spokesperson noting that, “Decisions about which private health insurance plans cover which doctors is a decision currently made by insurers and providers and will continue that way.”

Yet, industry experts explain that, because new Obamacare statues have constrained healthcare insurers’ ability to maintain profitability, the only recourse is to narrow healthcare networks to include only the most cost-effective providers. Because of this, top cancer centers like MD Anderson, whose healthcare prices billed to insurers — and ultimately patients — are higher due to its faculty of world-renowned researchers and medical practitioners, are too expensive to include in networks.

Supporters of Obamacare have sought to portray these research institutions’ price points less as a result of their excellence, and more because of institutional inefficiencies. However, Thomas Priselac, president and chief executive officer of Cedars-Sinai Health System in California, explained to the FT, “There is confusion between price and efficiency,” adding, “The major teaching and research hospitals are more expensive not because they are inefficient but because of what they do.”

Ronald DePinho, M.D

Ronald DePinho, M.D.

While Obamacare is already facing the prospect of the so-called “death spiral” in striking a balance in solvency with the risk of the healthy, young “invincible” generation rejecting the coverage, thus hyper-inflating healthcare costs for the rest of Americans, the risk of reducing revenues to research and treatment centers such as MD Anderson is that Americans could lose access to critically important specialized treatments, as well as experimental research that in necessary in continuing to advance new treatments and possibly cures for deadly diseases such as cancer.

Dr. Ronald DePinho, CEO of MD Anderson, offered what can now be seen as a prophetic set of comments on this issue back in May, when he said in a candid memo to the institution: “We can’t run the institution at an operating loss, especially at a time when the health care field faces external challenges from implementation of the Affordable Care Act, the budget sequester and continuing federal deficits. If we don’t make changes now, we potentially will find ourselves in a crisis that will force us to take drastic measures that could hurt our ability to meet our mission.”

If this was Dr. DePinho’s position in May, certainly it has sharpened in the months since the rollout of Obamacare.

[UPDATE 12/9/2013 1:15pm CST: An MD Anderson spokesperson issued the following statement to the press in response to the Financial Times article:

“All patients deserve access to top tier cancer care. MD Anderson and the nation's other top cancer centers play a key role in the fight against cancer, and particularly aggressive forms of the disease or rare cancers where expertise is limited to only a small number of facilities worldwide.

In addition, our country's leading cancer centers help bring down the cost of care for all patients by conducting research that leads to new and better treatments, better cancer fighting strategies and increased efficiencies that lead to cost savings. This knowledge is shared among all cancer care providers to benefit patients in the US and beyond our borders.

While every cancer  patient may not need to come to  MD Anderson, we believe both insurance providers and our health care system must work together to ensure patients have that option so that all of us have the best chance of beating cancer.” ]


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; cancer; jeffhead; mdanderson; medicine; obamacare; obamacarehospitals; rationedcare
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To: mdmathis6

That’s kind of how it works in Germany. They put you to the front of the line when you pay cash and it is not expensive.


21 posted on 12/11/2013 12:10:24 PM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen)
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To: dfwgator

Idiocracy was very prophetic wasn’t it???


22 posted on 12/11/2013 12:22:17 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Farnsworth

yes it was, the left is using it as their inspiration


23 posted on 12/11/2013 12:29:30 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ShadowAce

I don’t know about the truth of this.

Wife thrown out of Texas risk pool because it closed, and Humana tells her that she will be covered for her MDA costs under a Humana Gold PPO Obamacare plan.

Price went from $536/mo to $776/mo.


24 posted on 12/11/2013 12:34:01 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: dfwgator
Your new primary care physician:


25 posted on 12/11/2013 12:43:50 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: deep trout

Why are Americans allowing this destructio of oir medical sydtem?
Probably because thay had no idea of whst they were buying. Maybe becsuse they are to busy, to stupid, or for socialism. We know this has always been about our inallienable rights, control, and the slow march to dictorial socialist government.
MD Anderson saved the life of my youngest daughter. Rescued and birthed the child she was carrying, a girl named Fayth, and taught me just how special life’s challeges can be. My access to my home town cancer center will not be changed because my Cadilac plan covers this hospital. Others though will not be this fortunate.
If not stopped we will have a true two teired medical system


26 posted on 12/11/2013 1:15:46 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Rafael Cruz is an American hero)
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To: WilliamRobert

We need to make these bass turds pay for generations for the suffering impossed on the American citizens


27 posted on 12/11/2013 1:19:48 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Rafael Cruz is an American hero)
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To: ShadowAce

How to opt out of obamacare:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3100790/posts


28 posted on 12/11/2013 2:21:30 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: WilliamRobert

Communism is legitimized mass-murder. Either you overthrow it or it will overthrow you.


29 posted on 12/11/2013 2:30:42 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Leftist luddites always looking for the “perpetual” motion machines, always looking for Utopia.


30 posted on 12/11/2013 3:04:02 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Secret Societies are like Sasquatch, you never catch one but they do leave footprints!)
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To: ShadowAce
“We can’t run the institution at an operating loss..."

Obviously the good doctor hasn't been watching example set by the US government for the past eighty years.

Besides, with the Administration's new Five Year Plan, the quotas can and will be met. Shirkers, hooligans, and capitalist wreckers will soon find out differently if they continue to speak out otherwise...

31 posted on 12/11/2013 3:29:08 PM PST by Gritty (The emperor has hipster garb, but underneath heÂ’s just another Commissar Squaresville - Mark Steyn)
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To: ShadowAce
MD Anderson...along with hospitals in Boston and NYC are,in fact,the three finest cancer treatment/research centers in the world.I know,I was closely associated with the one in Boston for 20+ years.Although members of The Great Unwashed like us might be excluded from these centers Osama Obama & Pals,thankfully,will be welcome with open arms.
32 posted on 12/11/2013 3:42:03 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: deep trout

People are always complaining about how much doctors make and how much hospitals charge. They are SAVING LIVES, dammit! They deserve every penny they make. And it costs a fortune to run a state of the art hospital, they can’t give their freaking services away.


33 posted on 12/11/2013 4:42:46 PM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: ShadowAce; Armen Hareyan; B4Ranch; BykrBayb; cajungirl; cookcounty; dadfly; duckbutt; Gabrial; ...
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34 posted on 12/11/2013 7:24:21 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: ShadowAce
They don't even try to hide it anymore:

New York Times: For Those At Deaths Door, A Case For Death Panels

35 posted on 12/11/2013 7:31:04 PM PST by Libertarian444
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I heard about this thing but never was mentioned all those stupid elitist musings on it. Disgusting!


36 posted on 12/11/2013 7:46:32 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: deep trout
Why Americans are letting this destruction of our medical system go through is beyond me, totally.

The best medical care in the world and we're seeing it destroyed. Our Congress and Supreme Court is doing nothing. Why?

37 posted on 12/11/2013 7:52:21 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ShadowAce
Wow!!! IMHO, M D Anderson is the best in the world at what they do. Dealt with them up close and personal for about six months this year due to my 86 year old mom's Burkitt's Lymphoma. Nasty stuff; doubles in size every 24 hours. I'm convinced if the family had left her in the hands of the "local" oncologists she might not have been with us this Christmas. The local doc said MDA's treatment was too aggressive for someone of her age. Fact is, they can perform finely tuned aggressive treatment because they have the wherewithal to deal with the downside if it occurs.

The doctors and nurses at MDA are hardly inefficient. Describing them as true professionals does not do them justice. My mom and I actually sat and talked with one of the top lymphoma/myeloma doctors in the country, and maybe the world, for almost an hour and a half one day with only brief interruptions. I was simply amazed at the level of commitment and expertise shown by everyone, from the department head to the cleaning and food service people I came into contact with.

The downside of places like MDA? They're huge!!! Just the lymphoma/myeloma wing would dwarf many full sized hospitals in most major cities I suspect. Bring walking shoes! And jug ears wants to exclude them from the party. With people going there from all over the country and around the world, I think somehow they'll survive. I pray they do...

38 posted on 12/11/2013 11:24:45 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (What part of "Fundamentally transforming the United States of America" don't the LIV understand?)
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To: ShadowAce
Wow!!! IMHO, M D Anderson is the best in the world at what they do. Dealt with them up close and personal for about six months this year due to my 86 year old mom's Burkitt's Lymphoma. Nasty stuff; doubles in size every 24 hours. I'm convinced if the family had left her in the hands of the "local" oncologists she might not have been with us this Christmas. The local doc said MDA's treatment was too aggressive for someone of her age. Fact is, they can perform finely tuned aggressive treatment because they have the wherewithal to deal with the downside if it occurs.

The doctors and nurses at MDA are hardly inefficient. Describing them as true professionals does not do them justice. My mom and I actually sat and talked with one of the top lymphoma/myeloma doctors in the country, and maybe the world, for almost an hour and a half one day with only brief interruptions. I was simply amazed at the level of commitment and expertise shown by everyone, from the department head to the cleaning and food service people I came into contact with.

The downside of places like MDA? They're huge!!! Just the lymphoma/myeloma wing would dwarf many full sized hospitals in most major cities I suspect. Bring walking shoes! And jug ears wants to exclude them from the party. With people going there from all over the country and around the world, I think somehow they'll survive. I pray they do...

39 posted on 12/11/2013 11:27:10 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (What part of "Fundamentally transforming the United States of America" don't the LIV understand?)
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To: ShadowAce
A significant portion on MDA revenue comes from overseas patients that come over here and pay cash. I think this will increase.

Also, many of the large insurers have firmly negotiated rates with MDA because MDA is the 800 pound gorilla of cancer treatment, and all the major insurers almost have to deal them or they are missing a big piece of the market.

What this really means is that people that are dumb enough to sign up for an Obamacare plan will not have access to MDA.

They will be relegated to use less qualified facilities that the government deems suitable for their use. And, more of them will die if they ever get cancer.

40 posted on 12/12/2013 6:27:42 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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