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Newt Gingrich: What Would You Have Done? Nelson Mandela and American Conservatives
Gingrich Productions ^ | December 6, 2013 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 12/07/2013 2:16:29 PM PST by EveningStar

Yesterday I issued a heartfelt and personal statement about the passing of President Nelson Mandela. I said that his family and his country would be in my prayers and Callista’s prayers.

I was surprised by the hostility and vehemence of some of the people who reacted to me saying a kind word about a unique historic figure.

So let me say to those conservatives who don’t want to honor Nelson Mandela, what would you have done?

Mandela was faced with a vicious apartheid regime that eliminated all rights for blacks and gave them no hope for the future. This was a regime which used secret police, prisons and military force to crush all efforts at seeking freedom by blacks.

What would you have done faced with that crushing government?

What would you do here in America if you had that kind of oppression?

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KEYWORDS: abortionist; brilliant; commie; gingrich; homosexualagenda; idiot; mandela; newt; newtgingrich; rino; terrorist
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To: Patton@Bastogne

>> Tell us, are you just a “stealth” Mitt Romney Bott ... or just a Liberal Welfare Pimp ?

Well, Sir Patton, Newt’s Mandela missteps, combined with that erudite reply to the (ahem) *lady* Yaelle, have certainly convinced me!

I assure you my household will NEVER AGAIN provide any sort of support for that bolus of vomit that calls itself Newt Gingrich.

Speaking of which, I intend to do all in my limited power to make your life in the forum as comfortable as possible.

FRegards


121 posted on 12/07/2013 7:57:48 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Ironfocus

BTTT!


122 posted on 12/07/2013 9:02:02 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: EveningStar
[Article] So let me say to those conservatives who don’t want to honor Nelson Mandela, what would you have done?

Kept a respectful silence, on behalf of, and in memory of, all the people murdered by the ANC and its never-acknowledged thug force from the 1950's to present.

Newt, the history don, seems to have forgotten everything he once knew about the ANC's origin as a revenant Mau-Mau, a Communist-founded and -run terror organization and underground army dedicated to the destruction of South Africa and its Boer and English founders and owners.

South Africa never belonged to the black immigrants who were totally absent during the Zulu Wars, who came down from other central-African countries in search of work in the 20th century .... and stayed to kill and conquer.

Of all people, Newt Gingrich ought not to be participating in this Soviet-style Orwellian rewriting of history that liberaldom and its wholly-owned MSM has been perpetrating.

123 posted on 12/07/2013 10:45:09 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: DoodleDawg
I thought Newt was a scholar.

What was inaccurate about it?



Are you kidding or trolling?

See my last.

124 posted on 12/07/2013 10:50:10 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Oliviaforever
“When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.”

The Boers are there right now. Intestinally hated to death by the black population, they now face mass extermination every single day. They've been kept alive only because Mandela, Tambo, Mbeki and the rest of the ANC half-brights realized that a mass exodus of the defeated proprietors of the country would plunge them all into Mugabe-style kleptocratic "phobocracy" and the rekindling of old rivalries and hatreds to the point of genocide a la Rwanda, on a grander scale.

125 posted on 12/07/2013 11:01:51 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ironfocus
Thank you for your post. I'm sorry you lost your country, but there it is -- and now it is staring America in the face, too, as Russian and Chinese Communists work with racists, perverts, and every sort of irredentist, religious fanatic, and grudge-bearer to roll back the successes of Western Civilization so they can piggy-back on the dark victories of civilization's enemies.
126 posted on 12/07/2013 11:10:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Exactly. South Africa is lost, and I hope we can stop America from being lost too. I will fight here to my last breath.


127 posted on 12/07/2013 11:23:57 PM PST by Ironfocus
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To: Patton@Bastogne
[Source Article, Newt Gingrich]
Far from behaving like a communist, President Mandela reassured businesses that they could invest in South Africa and grow in South Africa. He had learned that jobs come from job creators.

Did you actually read Newt's complete article ? I did.

Yeah, so did I. Do you take Newt's comments about Mandela's respect for property rights seriously?

Let Newt sell that comment quoted above to white South African farmers expropriated or killed by Mandela's followers. Especially since it's still continuing (see the thread comments about the acceleration of killing since the demise of the National Party regime), and as you yourself conclude, is very likely to reaccelerate or even break out into widespread, unrestricted orgies of genocidal murder.

Mandela restrained his toughs while he was alive (Helen Suzman almost got stomped/raped/murdered when she attended the ANC victory rally post-election, but was rescued by someone on the leadership dais who recognized her just in time), but Mandela's dead now, and we'll all see what he authored in due course, as the generation of ANC politicians who cared what Mandela said fade from the scene and the thugs take over.

128 posted on 12/07/2013 11:27:56 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: DoodleDawg
I'm no fan of Mandela. He was a communist and he was responsible for the deaths of a lot of innocent people through terrorist acts, and was pretty brutal to any blacks who didn't toe the line. But I can't condemn him for opposing the white regime because if I lived under those conditions, despite your attempts to pretty them up, I would have opposed them too.

I have read some of these Mandela threads, and what you posted there is what I would have posted. Free education and free healthcare and a good economy are all wonderful, but would you trade your full liberty and freedom for that.

Stephen Biko was not an ANC militant, however he was tortured and murdered in jail for opposing the apartheid regime. They tried to cover it up, but that did not work.

I am not saying that the current ruling class is doing what is right. Freedom and self-determination are wonderful things, but with it comes great responsibility. There is a responsibility to preserve those freedoms, and make the right decisions for your people and your country. On an individual level, there is a need to use the freedoms to work hard and improve. Now you can't keep blaming anyone else for your failures.

129 posted on 12/07/2013 11:33:45 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Moorings

I happen to like to blame other people for my failings, it takes a load off shoulders. I like being fat, dumb, and happy. I do agree with your post even though I may have to give up my hard won status of fat, dumb, and happy. Life is rough.


130 posted on 12/07/2013 11:39:02 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Cyber Liberty; stormhill
Wow, that’s pretty defensive and thin-skinned of you, Newtie. Makes me glad you didn’t get a chance to be President.

Notice that Newt owns up to having personally presented Mandela with a Congressional medal .... that means his earlier judgment of the man is involved, and yes, he is defending the honor.

He knew better already, when he choked down what he knew about the ANC and pinned that medal on Mandela.

The stated reason for the honor was disingenuous, and its real rationale was prospective and inspirited with pleading for the lives of millions of white South Africans -- a sort of entreaty to the ANC to forbear slaughtering its conquered peoples.

131 posted on 12/07/2013 11:43:51 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: EveningStar

I wouldn’t have teamed up with commies to commit acts of terrorism, you worthless egomaniac.

No one cares what you have to say, Newt. Put a cork in it. You and anyone else defending that terrorist can go straight to hell.


132 posted on 12/07/2013 11:51:04 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Sat "inside" at a table with President Bill Clinton, enacting SUCCESSFUL "historic" Conservative legislation ...

Oh, you mean like in 1995 during the 1996 budget confab with Slick, when Newt and Dole thought they had a deal, and Clinton went out and preemptively lied to the press (who loved it no doubt) and beat the Republicans' brains in -- and then shut down the Government and blamed it all on Newt?

That "insider"? The only "insiders" on that deal were Slick, Beast, Tommy Dasschole, and about 400 Media reptiles. All of them laughing at Newt.

Even Newt confessed at the time, that he was completely unable to deal with Slick. Newt complained that every time he spent an hour talking to The Rapist, he had to take three days to detoxify after absorbing the rubber-hose job.

133 posted on 12/07/2013 11:52:22 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: DoodleDawg

Well said


134 posted on 12/08/2013 2:11:09 AM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: EveningStar
Mandela was faced with a vicious apartheid regime that eliminated all rights for blacks and gave them no hope for the future. This was a regime which used secret police, prisons and military force to crush all efforts at seeking freedom by blacks. What would you have done faced with that crushing government? What would you do here in America if you had that kind of oppression?

Don't worry, Newt. We WILL find out, in America, what we are willing to do.

135 posted on 12/08/2013 2:21:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Are you kidding or trolling?

Neither.

136 posted on 12/08/2013 2:58:05 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: ZULU

I’m guessing Zulu is not in reference to the tribe in Africa. The ANC was particularly hard on the Zulus from what I have read.


137 posted on 12/08/2013 3:08:14 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: EveningStar
From the comments, many at FR are too dense to get the message and haven't a clue of the utility of saying a few nice words vs. spitting the truth 9there are many and varied truths in this case). The same ones are now condemning Cruz for his short statement because they have no sense of the politics he needs to employ to keep the message from getting overrun at every turn - twit mind give twit knee-jerk opinions with no sense of the dynamics. They claim to be idealists/realists only they don't have the reasoning power God gave a gnat's a$$. They are the reason we keep losing to the Dim destruction machine - utterly incapable of a cohesive stand.

There - I feel better.

138 posted on 12/08/2013 4:20:47 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Sadly, Mandela’s death comes as SA is on the verge of genocide. I suppose Mandela could have brought it about sooner if he had been inclined, but he did not stop the progression towards genocide. Pray for SA.


139 posted on 12/08/2013 5:27:14 AM PST by Thidwick
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Thank you for your comments.


140 posted on 12/08/2013 6:22:41 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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