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Agency pushing new-car plan for poor
UT San Diego ^ | Nov. 29, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 11/30/2013 8:06:43 AM PST by artichokegrower

SACRAMENTO — One longtime critic of federal transportation spending once concluded that it would be less expensive for the government to buy every new transit rider a Jaguar XJ8 than it would be to build certain new rail systems. Unfortunately, California officials may not have realized that the idea of buying people new cars wasn’t a serious proposal as much as a way to illustrate a point about excessive spending.

The California Air Resources Board is now embarking on a program that would help poor people buy energy-efficient vehicles. In one scenario posed by the agency, a “voucher” might even pay the full price for a Nissan Leaf, an electric car with an MSRP above $21,000, or for used cars with lower price tags.

In a staff report released on Nov. 19, the agency analyzes its Enhanced Fleet Modernization Program authorized in 2007. Funded by a $1 surcharge on vehicle registrations, the $30-million-a-year program is essentially a “cash for clunkers” deal. It provides motorists with $1,000 to $1,500 to retire their high-polluting vehicles.

(Excerpt) Read more at utsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: affordablecaract; freecars
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To: artichokegrower

$2,500 minimum


21 posted on 11/30/2013 8:36:11 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: artichokegrower

ObamaCar!


22 posted on 11/30/2013 8:37:05 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: artichokegrower

This legislation discriminates against those of us who would prefer to use a shiny new pony for transportation!


23 posted on 11/30/2013 8:41:41 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Driven by Obamajugend.

"It isn't fascism when we do it!" - Bill Ayers/Obama/Soros/Sissy Matthews...

24 posted on 11/30/2013 8:42:18 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: artichokegrower

They’ll likely need another batch of subsidies to pay for upgrading home electrical service to charge the electrics, and then to pay for the electricity.


25 posted on 11/30/2013 8:47:23 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: GeronL

The poor on welfare are already as well off as some who are paying for their crap
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Actually when you factor in the ones on SSI because their ‘gangsta’ sperm donor gets killed while at ILLEGAL work, not having to get up in AM and comingle in traffic to get to a ‘job’, not having to ‘fake it’ for the hours one shows up to make their 40, or SSI because one is a DRUNK or DRUGGIE,-— OR be born addicted -— all things considered, we have ‘allowed’ THEM to get more for NOT working than they ever would for working.
Given rent subsidies, food stamps and subsidies, ‘free’ phones and pumping out kids like an assembly line etc and the POOR are way better off than the Middle Class who are foolish enough to work every day to support those that don’t. The SWHTF when the Middle Class really figures that out and in essence it has started as ‘we’ are giving illegals more and more ‘benefits’ in the gist of humanitarianism.


26 posted on 11/30/2013 8:48:01 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --STUPIDITY?: Lets remove warning labels so we can level the playing field.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Yo Adolph.

How ya doin' down there?

Gettin' a little warm yet?

Needin' a drink?

Wantin' someone to go dip their little pinkie in some cool water and let you have that one little drop?

Tough hsit.

Burn forever, MF. Right there next to Uncle Joe, Pol Pot, and The Chairman.

You may be consoled, however, that they named one of Herr Porche's cars after you.

[In krautvoice] Perhaps you have vone down zere, yes? [/krautvoice]

27 posted on 11/30/2013 8:52:38 AM PST by OKSooner ("Like, cosmic, man.")
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To: GeronL

***welfare cars.***

Obamacars with Obamacars. Something along the lines of a TRABANT.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html


28 posted on 11/30/2013 9:01:33 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: artichokegrower

they have no way to maintain the cars, much less somewhere to park them.

liberals are such simplistic idiots.


29 posted on 11/30/2013 9:02:17 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: artichokegrower

The very vocal minority will scream “Not one penny for a California bailout!” And we will be summarily vilified and ignored. The takers are the majority. Amnesty will cement that. It saddens me to inform my 16 year old daughter that this once great nation is doomed to nothing greater than mediocrity and at worst, a slide into totalitarianism.


30 posted on 11/30/2013 9:03:40 AM PST by Sharkfish ( "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: a fool in paradise

crescent a nod to muslims and commies that he admires, mimics and gives aid to.


31 posted on 11/30/2013 9:04:18 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Maybe these Socialist unicorn cars will be like the utopian white bicycles that are owned by the State and shared by the public, leave it outside any business and the next comrade who needs it is free to use it.


32 posted on 11/30/2013 9:10:31 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: artichokegrower

Having a car is a right. It can be found just after the part of the constitution that explains the right to kill a baby and right before the food stamp rights clause.


33 posted on 11/30/2013 9:29:50 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: a fool in paradise
If you have an ashtray in your car, you “pollute”.

I bought a new car in 2011 and asked, where are the ash trays? Was told that an ash tray was a $79 option.

34 posted on 11/30/2013 9:32:15 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: a fool in paradise

Actually, resurrecting the original VW bug wouldn’t be a bad idea. They’re simple, and cheap to manufacture and operate. Just ignore existing safety regulations, and you’re off to the races (metaphorically speaking).


35 posted on 11/30/2013 9:40:32 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: artichokegrower

How can someone be poor when they get a free phone, free food, free money, free car, free apartment, reduced cable TV and free insurance premiums?

While the person who works gets to take home 52% of his “salary” and the rest goes to the lazy slobs?


36 posted on 11/30/2013 10:10:11 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: artichokegrower
Where have I heard of this idea before?

I know, just call it the "People's Car."

37 posted on 11/30/2013 10:11:31 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: GeronL
The poor on welfare are already as well off as some who are paying for their crap.

I am quite underemployed right now but my wife and I together still manage to pay our bills and help our children in college.

I watch every day as minorities come in to my store, pay $30 for candy and chips with their EBT cards, then go out to their new Lincolns and Cadillacs while I still pay huge taxes and have cars ranging from ten to 15 years old. We cannot afford to purchase anything near-new let alone one of those big new vehicles the welfare families have.

38 posted on 11/30/2013 11:17:47 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: oh8eleven
C'mon, this is 2012. Just how many "high-polluting vehicles" are left on the road?

Plenty of high-polluting old trucks coming up from Mexico.

39 posted on 11/30/2013 11:19:27 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: artichokegrower
The Bottom 10% of Americans live better than 80% of the world's population, and even live better than the TOP 10% in many modern nations, including Russia, Portugal, and Brazil.


40 posted on 11/30/2013 11:25:22 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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