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ObamaCare's Plans Are Worse
Wall St. Journal ^ | November 29, 2013

Posted on 11/29/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by grundle

How the Affordable Care Act raises prices and limits medical choices.

The reason this furor will continue even if the website is fixed is that the public is learning that ObamaCare's insurance costs more in return for worse coverage.

Mr. Obama and his liberal allies call the old plans "substandard," but he doesn't mean from the perspective of the consumers who bought them. He means people were free to choose insurance that wasn't designed to serve his social equity and income redistribution goals. In his view, many people must pay first-class fares for coach seats so others can pay less and receive extra benefits.

Liberals justify these coercive cross-subsidies as necessary to finance coverage for the uninsured and those with pre-existing conditions. But government usually helps the less fortunate honestly by raising taxes to fund programs. In summer 2009, Senate Democrats put out such a bill, and the $1.6 trillion sticker shock led them to hide the transfers by forcing people to buy overpriced products.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacaredeductibles; obamacarepremiums; obamacarerationing; obamacaresubsidies
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1 posted on 11/29/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
Oops! I forgot to include the link:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303460004579192081764514664

2 posted on 11/29/2013 8:02:40 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Obamacare is going down.


3 posted on 11/29/2013 8:02:53 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Probably both Clintoons are going to campaign with every threatened houseRAT all year next year... blaming zero.

That’s why it’s so important to keep Benghazi front and center through 2014.


4 posted on 11/29/2013 8:09:55 PM PST by txhurl
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To: A CA Guy
I had the best possible plan I could find. My spouse is VERY sick, and has been for 8 years. I'm self employed as a sub-s corp., and had a group of two, with my wife as the other employee. I've had no issue paying $2100.00 a month for an awesome, plutonium, platinum, diamond plan. Now its canceled, I'm so afraid of what the future holds for us. All the “replacement” plans offered, come nowhere near what we've had. I want to curl up and die worrying over these new choices.
5 posted on 11/29/2013 8:14:54 PM PST by Slicksadick (We accept the love we think we deserve.)
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To: txhurl

Bingo.


6 posted on 11/29/2013 8:20:23 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Slicksadick

Prayers for y’all.

Send a registered letter to your governor detailing what has happened to you since zero got his claws on your healthcare.

Good luck, and godspeed. Keep us updated.


7 posted on 11/29/2013 8:23:03 PM PST by txhurl
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To: grundle
Nothing in this law actually designed by anyone with even a fundamental knowledge of insurance or health care. Obamacare is first and foremost about income redistribution and giving the government control of one sixth of the US economy. The convoluted design of Obamacare and the sinister regulations it has spawned are from the mind of academics woven together with a purely political framework. < p> What no one in the White House anticipated was that the whole scheme would so quickly collapse. Some believed that with enough lies and misrepresentations any problems would surface after the 2014 elections and that things would be too far gone by the 2016 elections to make any changes. A few like Nancy Pelosi were dumb enought to think this plan would work and create a groundswell of support. Most liberals even if they knew this was going to be a train wreck thought the American people would be too stupid to figure things out especially with the media being controlled by the administration telling them things were fine.

Now ordinary citizens, even those who supported Obama, are seeing first hand they we lied to by Obama himself and that things are just getting worse. Nothing Obama can do even unconstutionally altering the law by executive fiat can fix what is happening. Democrats running for reelection are already getting a firestorm from their consituants and will attempt to deny they had any idea this would happen. Only GOP ineptitude and poor leadership could stop a complete ouster of Democrats in Congress this fall.

8 posted on 11/29/2013 8:28:34 PM PST by The Great RJ
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....ObamaCare's insurance costs more in return for worse coverage.

In other words, the exact opposite of what the liar promised, PERIOD!

9 posted on 11/29/2013 8:29:39 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: grundle; Admin Moderator

Dear AM:

grundle forgot the link — it’s an editorial in the WSJ — he posted the link in his post 2. Could you please add it.

Thanks


10 posted on 11/29/2013 8:32:00 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: The Great RJ

Well written post. Articulate.


11 posted on 11/29/2013 8:33:13 PM PST by rawhide
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To: grundle

This is what I’ve been saying since day 1 and I was able to look at the plans. Finally the media is catching on!


12 posted on 11/29/2013 8:34:22 PM PST by sheana
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To: grundle

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13 posted on 11/29/2013 8:37:02 PM PST by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Army Air Corps

And important to keep Sarah and Ted all over those races the Krintons will be trying to move to their column.

This will be the Superbowl of ground-game GOTV.


14 posted on 11/29/2013 8:38:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl

I quite agree.


15 posted on 11/29/2013 8:44:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: The Great RJ

LOL
The GOP wrote the book on ineptitude and poor leadership!

No worries though, even they aren’t capable of stopping the freight train headed right between the American communist party’s eyes


16 posted on 11/29/2013 8:45:28 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: grundle; Ray76

Great video
C. Steven Tucker Deconstructs Obamacare in 25 Minutes sans Teleprompter
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2013/11/26/c-steven-tucker-deconstructs-obamacare-in-25-minutes-sans-teleprompter/

26:17 Minutes
C. Steven Tucker on Obamacare for AFP Indiana 93.1 WIBC and Chicks On The Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZh5uYwdaj8


17 posted on 11/29/2013 8:49:59 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Slicksadick

I’m so sorry to hear your problems with your insurance. I cannot begin to imagine the angst and worry you and your wife must be going through now. Best of luck to you. As TXHurl said, write immediately to all of your state and federal reps. If you could tolerate being on the public stage, perhaps get your story picked up by the WSJ or Fox so others know the true damage this is causing our nation and people.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 8:55:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: The Great RJ

Only GOP ineptitude and poor leadership could stop a complete ouster of Democrats in Congress this fall.


Maybe this is where those nefarious Koch bros that no conservative knows about will swoop in and be the counter-Soros and counter-Clinton force in the mid-terms.

We might have White Knights and not even know it.


19 posted on 11/29/2013 8:58:42 PM PST by txhurl
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To: grundle

I was against Obamacare (OC) right from the start, because it does NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to reduce cost of healthcare. US healthcare is one of the best in the world, if not the best. The ONLY problem is high cost.

OC is strictly a insurance program. People can get subsidized insurance, or free healthcare such as Medicaid through OC. However fewer and fewer doctors accept Medicaid patients because it pays less than their cost to provide care.

The subsidized part for poor people will turn out into much higher premiums and/or higher taxes for the middle class and above.

GOP needs to publicize their own plan which will actually reduce healthcare costs. Health insurance costs can drop only if healthcare costs drop first.

> Allow people to buy insurance across state lines
> Tort reform following example of Texas.
Doctors are forced to practice defensive medicine for lack of tort reform. Not to mention high cost of malpractice insurance passed on to consumers.
> Health Savings account which puts the consumer in charge.
> Allow formation of group insurance outside of large employers control.
> Reduce restrictions on Physician’s Assistants.
> Give tax incentives to states to open medical colleges.


20 posted on 11/29/2013 9:05:34 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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