Posted on 11/27/2013 7:05:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Radio giant Rush Limbaugh is scorching the leader of the Roman Catholic Church for criticizing unfettered capitalism, saying, This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope.
You know the pope, Pope Francis has issued an official papal proclamation, and its sad, Limbaugh said on his national broadcast Wednesday. Its actually unbelievable. Its sad because this pope makes it very clear he doesnt know what hes talking about when it comes to capitalism and socialism and so forth.
Im not Catholic, Limbaugh added, but up until this I admired the man.
In the 84-page document titled Evangelii Gaudium, which was released Tuesday, Pope Francis called upon politicians to provide dignified work, education and health care to all citizens.
The commandment Thou shalt not kill sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, wrote the pope. Today we also have to say thou shalt not to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills.
Noting that he had visited the Vatican numerous times, Limbaugh observed wryly: Believe me, it wouldnt exist without tons of money. Somebody has either written this for [the pope] or gotten to him. This is pure Marxism.
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Define it as you may. It is collectivist claptrap, anti-freedom, anti-individual and ignorant of basic economic freedoms. To hell with him and anyone who defends his spew. This pope is a dope.
Facilitated is rather strong, and given Rome’s own challenges and the complexities of the ceremony, I doubt that he went out after his election and asked for a list of who the U.S. was sending. The most notable thing was telling the Bishops of Argentina to stay home and to give the money saved to the poor.
Naw you didn’t touch a raw nerve. I just get sick of people who hate Rush without intellectual honesty, you namely. And tonight I decided to call it out and I did. So since you must think of me as a, oh whatever clever cliché you have for me, I’ll do you the honor of leaving you alone—totally. Aidue.
“For example, I disagree with the oil broker who buys oil when prices are low and then sells the oil back to consumers when prices are high”
Why?
I understand it. Perhaps that explains the ignorant moonbats in my extended family who are public school teachers. Still, you’d think that a priest high in the hierarchy of the Church is a highly and widely educate man, who perhaps has heard of the reigning economic theories.
Popes should stay out of politics and political discussions.
That being said, I disagree with Pope John Paul on that, however, I can’t change what I said.
He was Pope when I was growing up during a time when I loved America and during a time when America loved herself. It’s a period of time that I loved very much and I can’t ever go back to it except in my mind.
Therefore he is set in my mind regardless of his faults.
People that I have seen since that time...I’m just not capable of forming a connection to. It seems like the more I get to know about them what forms in me is revulsion and contempt. I live in a false world, and I’m not partial to it.
My thoughts on John Paul may well be irrational, but they have to stay as they are in order for me to maintain sanity.
I agree but I just had to get the last word........ heheheh
It is the people who do have reverence for the Pope that will be misled
You think China has “unfettered” capitalism?
Seriously?
Half of those corporations are owned by the Chinese government and chinese army.
Here, pure Marxism.
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205. I ask God to give us more politicians capable of sincere and effective dialogue aimed at healing the deepest roots and not simply the appearances of the evils in our world! Politics, though often denigrated, remains a lofty vocation and one of the highest forms of charity, inasmuch as it seeks the common good.[174] We need to be convinced that charity is the principle not only of micro-relationships (with friends, with family members or within small groups) but also of macro-relationships (social, economic and political ones)".[175]
I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor! It is vital that government leaders and financial leaders take heed and broaden their horizons, working to ensure that all citizens have dignified work, education and healthcare. Why not turn to God and ask him to inspire their plans? I am firmly convinced that openness to the transcendent can bring about a new political and economic mindset which would help to break down the wall of separation between the economy and the common good of society."
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That is where you are WRONG. China is not an example of unfettered capitalism. Capitalism requires the rule of law. A person may not transgress on another via force, coercion or damage them or their property without consequences where rule of law exists.
What you have in China is corporatism. Gov and Biz are in bed with each other and the average man suffers for it.
We are headed that way, although I would classify our evolution as more like the National Socialists. Not pretty either way.
Feudalism? There wa snot such thing as feudalism in the 13th century. THAT is a marxist invention,too. But before you—and Rush— go off half cocked, remember that Marx and David Ricardo both envisaged man as an economic animal. Which is how Wall Street also sees us all, as consumers and workers. Which is why the major donors in the Republican Party care not a fig about the importance of the social issues, see no connection. between personal and religious liberty, between a strong family unit and economic liberty.
Future Pope Pfleger 1?
I do.
Look at China. China is now using capitalism in its economy. And what about the common man in China? Many are building much better lives, for sure, but millions and millions are also being abused by a savage system of exploitation where they have almost no rights, few real freedoms in the labor market, no protection from their employers, etc.
I myself believe free market practices create more freedoms and generally improve the situations of people. What I do not assume is that it automatically “inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world.”
Also, I heard Rush discuss this point today:
“The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.”
What got to me was how upset Rush was about that point. I like Rush and really respect him for his intelligence. I also think he is way too hung up on his Apple devices, his golf outings, his cigars, his plane, etc. Rush did indeed make a good point about how many workers are being employed in China to produce the new iPhones because of the incredible demand. At the same time I can’t help but think that there’s something pathetic about our insatiable demand for the latest version of the iPhone as if it so important. I’m still using a flip phone and never had a cell phone of my own until 2009. While I was driving and listening to Rush talk about that comment from Pope Francis it occurred to me (not for the first time) how attached Rush is to his toys. It then occurred to me (not for the first time) how attached I am to mine. I collect Bibles. I have dozens of them. I do use them. I read the Bible frequently. I share what I learn with friends. I have to admit, however, I am spending too much money and time acquiring the next study Bible “the market offers [me]...to purchase”. I realize I have to stop. It’s no longer a wholesome pursuit in my case. It’s become a distraction from what I should be doing first and foremost: living a Christ-like life of charity. What can I say? It was an important afternoon car ride for me today.
why?
You don’t think the people who buy and sell should have the freedom to hold on to something until the price rises?
Does this go for home prices? No more selling homes at a higher price than the purchase price?
“Not so long ago ( before the Drug Cartels became the government) Mexico was completely subjugated by the RC Church. All you had to do is drive through all the dirt poor outlying towns and villages and the one thing that struck you was the relative opulence of the local RC Church building. The Church was bleeding an abjectly poor populace and with its doctrines, kept them all barefoot and pregnant. Shameful.”
Which is why the Socialist Mexican Oligarchs allowed Trotsky to live in Mexico. Which is why Catholic priests were taken from Churches and placed before firing squads. Which is why Andy Garcia was involved in a movie showing how the Catholic Church was persecuted in Mexico under Oligarch governments. You need so stop reading the Jack Chick tracts, pal.
Also, this Pope in his comments was coming from the Distributist wing of economic philosophy which was promulgated by Pope Leo XIII and Pope Pius XIV. It also had proponents such as Gilbert Keith Chesterton and Hillaire Belloc of England and Dorothy Day in the U.S. The idea is that distributists own their own means of production (such as a plumber who owns his tools). They ARE not against private ownership—they insist on it. The philosophy rejects an economic system in which funds are held by enormous banks at high interest and would rather see things like credit unions in which the funds of those in the credit union are used to distribute to the members with decreased interest rates.
In Africa and India at this moment, people are being lent funds as low as $25 and starting their own businesses which benefits their communities and allows them to increase capital and to lend to others. So, appreciate that this Pope is speaking to an audience of the world and not to only the U.S.
I have no problem with that. As Christians we are to restore all things in Christ. I have no problem turning “to God and ask[ing] him to inspire” the plans of political and financial leaders. And I absolutely agree with the Pope when he says: “I am firmly convinced that openness to the transcendent can bring about a new political and economic mindset which would help to break down the wall of separation between the economy and the common good of society.”
Ping
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