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Elian Gonzalez: My time in the US marked me for my whole life
Fox News Latino ^ | 11-19-13

Posted on 11/27/2013 6:49:46 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

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To: afraidfortherepublic

Let Elian come back to American soil - or perhaps to a free country like Russia - and say these words again.

Right now all we are hearing from Elian is what his jailers want him to say.


21 posted on 11/27/2013 7:14:45 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I despise Communism and the Cuban government.

That said, Natural Law says that any fit parent has a God given right to raise his/her child.

Once the identity of his lone surviving parent was determined and it was confirmed that that parent wanted him returned home, he should immediately been sent back to his father. If his father wanted him to stay in the U.S., he should (and would) have been allowed to stay.

Would it be OK for Americans to go to poor countries and snatch impoverished children away from their parents, against their parents’ will, to give them “a better life”?

What if some Saudi billionaire could give American kids, with loving, middle class, parents “a better life”, should he be allowed to kidnap them for their own good?

All that keeping him here all that time was give Castro ammunition in the propaganda wars.


22 posted on 11/27/2013 7:15:51 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And our time in the US marked US for life, dudito. It created a people genuinely concerned about the welfare of others, yet proud of their heritage. Then in 2008, a president was elected who was determined to take us down a few notches, and dangerously so. His greatest desire was to teach the US a lesson. Or three. He enacted programs and laws designed to destroy what had existed prior to his empowerment, and appears to be determined to inflict even more damage in the remaining time he has in office.

You’re not in a great position, Mr. Gonzalez, but neither are we. We have a leadership cadre that is determined to take this country into a place much like where you live. We cannot know if you are a propaganda tool of the regime in your country or are honestly speaking your sentiments. We wish we had the luxury of pondering your concerns, but we are too busy trying to rescue ourselves.


23 posted on 11/27/2013 7:19:01 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: a fool in paradise

>>>NO immigration status to the US ever for this ingrate.
<<<

Yes, what a horrible, “ungrateful” little boy he was, for wanting to be with his FATHER in the home he grew up in, instead of in a foreign country with relatives he barely knew.

Sure, Castro made a politcal pawn out of this boy, but those who refused to quickly return him to his father did so first.


24 posted on 11/27/2013 7:19:24 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I have little to add after reading your two comments.
It just seems that he’s forgotten the reasons why his brave mom fled Cuba.


25 posted on 11/27/2013 7:21:50 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

He is a great propaganda tool for the Cuban Gov’t.. He has name recognition, and his future looks to be very good so long as he parrots the Party line. He’s going to be a lot better off than most of the Cubans.


26 posted on 11/27/2013 7:23:54 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not even curious why his brave mom did what she did.
Oh well, if he was living in the US he would probably
just be another low information Democrat voter.


27 posted on 11/27/2013 7:26:10 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lest we forget.


28 posted on 11/27/2013 7:30:36 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bill Clinton will burn in HELL for all Eternity for what he did to that boy


29 posted on 11/27/2013 7:33:10 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
In the period before armed agents seized the child, the Justice Department had been leaking its intention to avoid any sort of armed intervention. It would all be done quietly, they suggested. When top Department officials were asked about it, they said nothing to change that impression. About two weeks before the raid, Tim Russert asked Holder, “You wouldn’t send a SWAT team in the dark of night to kidnap the child, in effect?” Holder answered, “No, we don’t expect anything like that to happen.” Then the Department did precisely that. The day after the seizure, Holder appeared again with Russert, who asked, “Why such a dramatic change in position?” “I’m not sure I’d call it a dramatic change,” Holder answered. “We waited ’til five in the morning, just before dawn.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/173919/eric-holder-and-seizing-elian/byron-york

30 posted on 11/27/2013 7:37:29 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

31 posted on 11/27/2013 7:39:47 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Albion Wilde

Watching Elian kidnapped on TV, and seeing this picture, was the first and only time I’ve vomited spontaneously as a visceral reaction. In America...? Seriously...? I still cannot believe it happened here.


32 posted on 11/27/2013 7:42:42 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Elian wants to keep his ration card. Simple.


33 posted on 11/27/2013 7:52:54 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So have you spoken up about the Uniform Child Abduction Prevention Act (UCAPA)? This law makes every parent a potential child abductor subject to having their children confiscated at gunpoint.

www.ucapa.org.


34 posted on 11/27/2013 7:55:23 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“That said, Natural Law says that any fit parent has a God given right to raise his/her child.”

And that is where your argument falls on its face. Until Castro got involved, the father wanted his son to remain with the Miami relatives. There are records of him talking to them to assure his safety.

It was a groundswell of all you “Natural Rights” folks and “Fathers’Rights” folks and the National Council of Churches and Methodist groups that made it easy for Clinton and his crime syndicate to do their dirty work.

Elian Gonzalez was the last case in my memory when “Fathers’ Rights” ever became a cause. Just crickets now.

And what is your proof that the father wanted him returned home? The father was constantly under the gun of Castro even when he came to the U.S.

Read this and then let me hear about your Natural Law.

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/elian/cousin.htm

You’d probably prefer children to accompany their natural parents into the Holocaust gas chambers too.


35 posted on 11/27/2013 7:55:27 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“...any fit parent has a God given right to raise his/her child...”

Under US Family Law (varying in degrees by state) an absentee father who shows sudden interest in his son would fail in an effort to move his son to a poor support situation. Even without the drama surrounding his recently deceased mother who died getting him out of a horrible situation.

Many times the courts have ruled against placing a child with a circumspect parent while giving him to other relatives who are of sound mind or stable situation.


36 posted on 11/27/2013 7:59:03 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ((...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47))
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To: A'elian' nation

“...Elian Gonzalez was the last case in my memory when “Fathers’ Rights” ever became a cause. Just crickets now....”

Ain’t that the truth.


37 posted on 11/27/2013 8:03:26 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ((...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The US has been blamed for many things, but to deny someone their “cultural context,” that’s new.


38 posted on 11/27/2013 8:04:11 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: originalbuckeye

” I will never forgive them”

I agree wholeheartedly with your heartbreaking sentiments which you clarified so well. How can anyone forgive Clinton and Holder for such depravity?

This should be required reading for anyone who has the godforsaken notion that Elian should have been returned to godless communist Cuba.

http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/elian/cousin.htm

I adopted my handle “aelian nation” in sad recognition of what this country did to this poor boy whose mother died so he could be free.


39 posted on 11/27/2013 8:12:59 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

From what I recall, his father was the custodial parent and the mother and her boyfriend attempted to take him to the US.

Do you have any copies of the records showing that Elian’s father intially wanted him to stay in the U.S.? If I see proof of this, I might change my view, but I have never heard this.

The bottom line is, if we, as Americans, do not believe in the most basic right of a parent to raise his his/her own child, we might as well throw out all our Constitutional rights (though the Democrats are already doing a good job of trampling them), and stop claiming any sort of moral high ground.

And spare me the “gas chamber” nonsense. His propaganda value has made him one of Cuba’s elites, so he isn’t suffering, much less dead. Plus, I’m not sure any Jewish parent in a Nazi contolled land would have demanded his child be returned from America to face a gas chamber.


40 posted on 11/27/2013 8:16:34 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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